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Latest beheading vids.
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dreamwalker
2004-09-23 22:45:38 UTC
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Complete with Arabian musical score. I'm sure Dr Blunt and AK will enjoy both. Vids of the two Italian woman should be up shortly. Brought to you by the wonderful world of Islamic radicalism.

http://www.goregasm.com/movies/ogrish-dot-com-jack-hensley-beheading-video.wmv


http://4.78.57.43/ogrish-dot-com-eugene-armstrong-beheading-video.wmv
Krib
2004-09-24 00:16:57 UTC
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Post by dreamwalker
Complete with Arabian musical score. I'm sure Dr Blunt and AK will enjoy
both.

Seems like you couldn't wait to see them either, what's up tonto
not enough violent fantasies of your own? you need to look at real
horror to get your kicks now?
Post by dreamwalker
Vids of the two Italian woman should be up shortly.
You can't wait can you fuckhead.
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Brought to you by the wonderful world of Islamic radicalism.
They're cowardly fucks like you, guernon and the other scum.
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krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 10:03:05 UTC
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Kissing up to the Islamic murderers covering up and excusing the
atrocities they commit (in order to get Dr, Germ to work Saddam's WMD
for them), now. A new low.

J.
Post by Krib
Post by dreamwalker
Complete with Arabian musical score. I'm sure Dr Blunt and AK will enjoy
both.
Seems like you couldn't wait to see them either, what's up tonto
not enough violent fantasies of your own? you need to look at real
horror to get your kicks now?
Post by dreamwalker
Vids of the two Italian woman should be up shortly.
You can't wait can you fuckhead.
Post by dreamwalker
Brought to you by the wonderful world of Islamic radicalism.
They're cowardly fucks like you, guernon and the other scum.
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krib
AK
2004-09-24 13:14:05 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
Kissing up to the Islamic murderers covering up and excusing the
atrocities they commit (in order to get Dr, Germ to work Saddam's WMD
for them), now. A new low.
Prove it.

Their initial demand was that the US releases all the women that they are raping
in prisons. "Dr Germ" personality was brought into discussion by the Iraqi
puppet government.
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 14:38:33 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
Kissing up to the Islamic murderers covering up and excusing the
atrocities they commit (in order to get Dr, Germ to work Saddam's WMD
for them), now. A new low.
Prove it.
Their initial demand was that the US releases all the women that they are raping
in prisons. "Dr Germ" personality was brought into discussion by the Iraqi
puppet government.
Bah there are no other women than these two scientists who worked on
bio-weapons, and they are in US custody. No women in Iraqi prison. If
they want the other women that are being raped in Iraqi prison it is
crazy since there are none. Where did you get that? On AlJazirah or on
some MUSLIM terrorists website?

No, they want the evil doctor to know how to work the evil weapons.

And they won't have these two women. There are no others.

J.
AK
2004-09-24 15:24:10 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
Post by AK
Their initial demand was that the US releases all the women that they are raping
in prisons. "Dr Germ" personality was brought into discussion by the Iraqi
puppet government.
Bah there are no other women than these two scientists who worked on
bio-weapons, and they are in US custody. No women in Iraqi prison.
BAH

Abuse of an Iraqi woman in prison:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1308346,00.html

Women abused in prisons (orginally pblished in LA times)
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=4782

Iraqi women prisoners raped:
http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=478

Iraqi women raped in prisons:
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=10096

Women prisoners:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1220509,00.html

Abuse of women prisoners:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1214698,00.html

Iraqi Women and Tortured in prisons:
Part one: http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=6098
Part two: http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=6089

And I can continue posting many more sources

No wonder the insurgents are beheading people to stop their women being raped.

This has nothing to do with "Dr. Germ.:
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 16:29:52 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
Post by AK
Their initial demand was that the US releases all the women that they are raping
in prisons. "Dr Germ" personality was brought into discussion by the Iraqi
puppet government.
Bah there are no other women than these two scientists who worked on
bio-weapons, and they are in US custody. No women in Iraqi prison.
BAH
ALL bullshit links

And it has nothing to do with the situation now.

No women in the jails. Are you dumb?

J
AK
2004-09-25 04:59:52 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
ALL bullshit links
And it has nothing to do with the situation now.
No women in the jails. Are you dumb?
Prove it. I gave you links to articles published in the Guardian and LA times.

Prove that the links are invalid, and there are no women in prisons.
Jean Guernon
2004-09-25 07:11:04 UTC
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Post by AK
Post by Jean Guernon
ALL bullshit links
And it has nothing to do with the situation now.
No women in the jails. Are you dumb?
Prove it. I gave you links to articles published in the Guardian and LA times.
Prove that the links are invalid, and there are no women in prisons.
No women in prison.

What links? Whether your links are outdated or the Guardian lies as it
always does.

J.
AK
2004-09-25 10:38:11 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
the Guardian lies as it
always does.
Prove anything in the article below is a lie (this would explain why insurgents
are beheading people to free the women).

Thursday May 20, 2004
The Guardian

The scandal at Abu Ghraib prison was first exposed not by a digital photograph
but by a letter. In December 2003, a woman prisoner inside the jail west of
Baghdad managed to smuggle out a note. Its contents were so shocking that, at
first, Amal Kadham Swadi and the other Iraqi women lawyers who had been trying
to gain access to the US jail found them hard to believe.

The note claimed that US guards had been raping women detainees, who were, and
are, in a small minority at Abu Ghraib. Several of the women were now pregnant,
it added. The women had been forced to strip naked in front of men, it said. The
note urged the Iraqi resistance to bomb the jail to spare the women further
shame.

Late last year, Swadi, one of seven female lawyers now representing women
detainees in Abu Ghraib, began to piece together a picture of systemic abuse and
torture perpetrated by US guards against Iraqi women held in detention without
charge. This was not only true of Abu Ghraib, she discovered, but was, as she
put it, "happening all across Iraq".

In November last year, Swadi visited a woman detainee at a US military base at
al-Kharkh, a former police compound in Baghdad. "She was the only woman who
would talk about her case. She was crying. She told us she had been raped,"
Swadi says. "Several American soldiers had raped her. She had tried to fight
them off and they had hurt her arm. She showed us the stitches. She told us, 'We
have daughters and husbands. For God's sake don't tell anyone about this.'"

Astonishingly, the secret inquiry launched by the US military in January, headed
by Major General Antonio Taguba, has confirmed that the letter smuggled out of
Abu Ghraib by a woman known only as "Noor" was entirely and devastatingly
accurate. While most of the focus since the scandal broke three weeks ago has
been on the abuse of men, and on their sexual humilation in front of US women
soldiers, there is now incontrovertible proof that women detainees - who form a
small but unknown proportion of the 40,000 people in US custody since last
year's invasion - have also been abused. Nobody appears to know how many. But
among the 1,800 digital photographs taken by US guards inside Abu Ghraib there
are, according to Taguba's report, images of a US military policeman "having
sex" with an Iraqi woman.

Taguba discovered that guards have also videotaped and photographed naked female
detainees. The Bush administration has refused to release other photographs of
Iraqi women forced at gunpoint to bare their breasts (although it has shown them
to Congress) - ostensibly to prevent attacks on US soldiers in Iraq, but in
reality, one suspects, to prevent further domestic embarrassment.

Earlier this month it emerged that an Iraqi woman in her 70s had been harnessed
and ridden like a donkey at Abu Ghraib and another coalition detention centre
after being arrested last July. Labour MP Ann Clwyd, who investigated the case
and found it to be true, said, "She was held for about six weeks without charge.
During that time she was insulted and told she was a donkey."

In Iraq, the existence of photographs of women detainees being abused has
provoked revulsion and outrage, but little surprise. Some of the women involved
may since have disappeared, according to human rights activists. Professor Huda
Shaker al-Nuaimi, a political scientist at Baghdad University who is researching
the subject for Amnesty International, says she thinks "Noor" is now dead. "We
believe she was raped and that she was pregnant by a US guard. After her release
from Abu Ghraib, I went to her house. The neighbours said her family had moved
away. I believe she has been killed."

Honour killings are not unusual in Islamic society, where rape is often equated
with shame and where the stigma of being raped by an American soldier would,
according to one Islamic cleric, be "unbearable". The prospects for rape victims
in Iraq are grave; it is hardly surprising that no women have so far come
forward to talk about their experiences in US-run jails where abuse was rife
until early January.

One of the most depressing aspects of the saga is that, unaccountably, the US
military continues to hold five women in solitary confinement at Abu Ghraib, in
cells 2.5m (8ft) long by 1.5m (5ft) wide. Last week, the military escorted a
small group of journalists around the camp, where hundreds of relatives gather
every day in a dusty car park in the hope of news.

The prison is protected by guard towers, an outer fence topped with razor wire,
and blast walls. Inside, more than 3,000 Iraqi men are kept in vast open
courtyards, in communal brown tents exposed to dust and sun. (Last month, nearly
30 detainees were killed in two separate mortar attacks on the prison; about a
dozen survivors are still in the hospital wing, shackled to their beds with
leather belts.) As our bus pulled up, the men ran towards the razor wire. They
unfurled banners and T-shirts that read: "Why are we here?" "When are you going
to do something about this scandal?" "We cannot talk freely."

The women, however, are kept in another part of the prison, cellblock 1A,
together with 19 "high-value" male detainees. It is inside this olive-painted
block, which leads into a courtyard of shimmering green saysaban trees and pink
flowering shrubs, that the notorious photographs of US troops humiliating Iraqi
prisoners were taken, many of them on the same day, November 8 2003. A wooden
interrogation shed is a short stroll away. As we arrived at the cellblock, the
women shouted to us through the bars. An Iraqi journalist tried to talk to them;
a female US soldier interrupted and pushed him away. The windows of the women's
cells have been boarded up; birds nest in the outside drainpipe. Captain Dave
Quantock, now in charge of prisoner detention at Abu Ghraib, confirmed that the
women prisoners are in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day. They have no
entertainment; they do have a Koran.

Since the scandal first emerged there is general agreement that conditions at
Abu Ghraib have improved. A new, superior catering company now provides the
inmates' food, and all the guards involved in the original allegations of abuse
have left.

Nevertheless, there remain extremely troubling questions as to why these women
came to be here. Like other Iraqi prisoners, all five are classified as
"security detainees" - a term invented by the Bush administration to justify the
indefinite detention of prisoners without charge or legal access, as part of the
war on terror. US military officials will only say that they are suspected of
"anti-coalition activities".

Two of the women are the wives of high-ranking and absconding Ba'ath party
members; two are accused of financing the resistance; and one allegedly had a
relationship with the former head of Iraq's secret police, the Mukhabarat. The
women, in their 40s and 50s, come from Kirkuk and Baghdad; none has seen their
families or children since their arrest earlier this year.

According to Swadi, who managed to visit Abu Ghraib in late March, the
allegations against the women are "absurd". "One of them is supposed to be the
mistress of the former director of the Mukhabarat. In fact, she's a widow who
used to own a small shop. She also worked as a taxi driver, ferrying children to
and from kindergarten. If she really had a relationship with the director of the
Mukhabarat, she would scarcely be running a kiosk. These are baseless charges,"
she adds angrily. "She is the only person who can provide for her children."

The women appear to have been arrested in violation of international law - not
because of anything they have done, but merely because of who they are married
to, and their potential intelligence value. US officials have previously
acknowledged detaining Iraqi women in the hope of convincing male relatives to
provide information; when US soldiers raid a house and fail to find a male
suspect, they will frequently take away his wife or daughter instead.

The International Committee of the Red Cross, whose devastating report on human
rights abuses of Iraqi prisoners was delivered to the government in February but
failed to ring alarm bells, says the problem lies with the system. "It is an
absence of judicial guarantees," says Nada Doumani, spokesperson for the ICRC.
"The system is not fair, precise or properly defined."

During her visit to Abu Ghraib in March, one of the prisoners told Swadi that
she had been forced to undress in front of US soldiers. "The Iraqi translator
turned his head in embarrassment," she said. The release of detainees,
meanwhile, appears to be entirely arbitrary: three weeks ago one woman prisoner
who spoke fluent English and who had been telling her guards that she would sue
them was suddenly released. "They got fed up with her," another lawyer, Amal
Alrawi, says.

Last Friday, about 300 male prisoners were freed from Abu Ghraib, the first
detainees to be released since the abuse scandal first broke. A further 475 are
due to be released tomorrow, although it is not clear if any of the women will
be among them. General Geoffery Miller, who is responsible for overhauling US
military jails in Iraq, has promised to release 1,800 prisoners across Iraq
"within 45 days". Some 2,000 are likely to remain behind bars, he says. Iraqi
lawyers and officials aredemanding that the US military hands the prisons over
to Iraqi management on June 30, when the coalition transfers limited powers to a
UN-appointed caretaker Iraqi government. Last week, Miller said "negotiations"
with Iraqi officials were ongoing.

Relatives who gathered outside Abu Ghraib last Friday said it was common
knowledge that women had been abused inside the jail. Hamid Abdul Hussein, 40,
who was there hoping to see his brother Jabar freed, said former detainees who
had returned to their home town of Mamudiya reported that several women had been
raped. "We've know this for months," he said. "We also heard that some women
committed suicide."

While the abuse may have stopped, the US military appears to have learned
nothing from the experience. Swadi says that when she last tried to visit the
women at Abu Ghraib, "The US guards refused to let us in. When we complained,
they threatened to arrest us."
Jean Guernon
2004-09-28 00:22:30 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
the Guardian lies as it
always does.
Prove anything in the article below is a lie (this would explain why insurgents
are beheading people to free the women).
Thursday May 20, 2004
The Guardian
You are an idiot., This is May, we are in the end of september. No women
in Iraqi American custody, bozo.

Wake up, Only the two scientists. And yes it is surely total bunk.

But it is meaningless stupid. There are no women in Abu Graib.

And it is easy to see why they would want Dr. Germ, hey. Too bad they
will not. hehe Maybe if we are lucky they will try to make their WMD
from Saddam stuff themselves and will blow themselves up.

And you will cry, sniff sniff sniff.

J.
AK
2004-09-28 05:06:38 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
You are an idiot., This is May, we are in the end of september. No women
in Iraqi American custody, bozo.
Prove it.
Krib
2004-09-24 16:58:44 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
Kissing up to the Islamic murderers covering up and excusing the
atrocities they commit (in order to get Dr, Germ to work Saddam's WMD
for them), now. A new low.
As usual you're seeing something that isn't there you senile fuck.
Just how am I kissing up to these bastards you dull moron?

Is this just your usual stupidity on display guernon? isn't it
about time a pretend exegete like you actually went and learned
something about the seer rather than using someone ele's work?

You're a cowardly puke guernon, I challenge you to show where I've
supported terrorism ever, prove it now or be shown for the lying piece
of shit I've already shown you to be.

I expect you to run away from this like you did all of my questions
in our recent debate including the questions about Nostradamus, just
like you ran from the USMC and Vietnam you pathetic pile of yellow
excremental filth.
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krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 17:17:40 UTC
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Go fuck yourself Krib. You bring nothing but pure shit, you have started
making you puke in my thread. All you can do is lie. And a lot of puke.

All your shit has been debunked and yet you come back with it.

You are like fly shit. Maybe you are him? You stick to windshield even
if one uses windshield washer. One has to go out and get you off like I
will my posts.

It really make me think that all your previous posts are pure shit here.

I hadn't noticed for some reason.

I will take a look to see... eventually

Meanwhile kiss the subversive ass of Cuan a little more, smack smack
smack, he likes that.

Ha yes, puke a little more, Krib the liar.

J.
Krib
2004-09-24 19:29:13 UTC
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"Jean Guernon" <***@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:UEY4d.81814$***@edtnps89...

<nothing as usual>

'As usual you're seeing something that isn't there you senile fuck.
Just how am I kissing up to these bastards you dull moron?'

Ran away because you couldn't answer could you? you gutless,
yellow bastard.

'Is this just your usual stupidity on display guernon?'

Obviously it is as, yet again, you can't back up a *single* word
that drips from your lying face.

'isn't it about time a pretend exegete like you actually went and learned
something about the seer rather than using someone ele's work?'

Still pissing your time away in here then old man? what's up guernon
aren't you able to stick your name on anyone else's work? An old
fart like you can't have much more time to waste ;0)

'You're a cowardly puke guernon, I challenge you to show where I've
supported terrorism ever, prove it now or be shown for the lying piece
of shit I've already shown you to be.'

And, again, you failed and ran like the chickenshit coward you are.
Nothing you say can be believed and anyone researching you can
now see what a lying, worthless pile of bullshit spills from your
disgusting, bigoted, racist, cowards mind everytime you try to use it.

'I expect you to run away from this like you did all of my questions
in our recent debate including the questions about Nostradamus, just
like you ran from the USMC and Vietnam you pathetic pile of yellow
excremental filth.'

Game Set Match to me again you lying, piece of worthless shit.
See you around chickenhawk ;0)
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krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 21:00:01 UTC
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Header is for you.

Puke little chicken shit, puke puke puke.

J.
Krib
2004-09-24 23:14:16 UTC
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Header is for you.
Why do you keep avoiding the facts guernon?
You have consistently failed to provide anything but
your opinion and that, as has been proved, is totally
worthless.
Post by Jean Guernon
Puke little chicken shit, puke puke puke.
Given that *you* are the cowardly bedwetter that shit your
pants in fear when you ran away from your commitment to
the USMC this is obviously how you try to hide your shame.

Too bad the facts are here eh guernybabe ;0)
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krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-25 06:29:51 UTC
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Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Header is for you.
Why do you keep avoiding the facts guernon?
You have consistently failed to provide anything but
your opinion and that, as has been proved, is totally
worthless.
Post by Jean Guernon
Puke little chicken shit, puke puke puke.
Given that *you* are the cowardly bedwetter that shit your
pants in fear when you ran away from your commitment to
the USMC this is obviously how you try to hide your shame.
Too bad the facts are here eh guernybabe ;0)
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krib
You can only spew total bullshit.

Puke a little more chickenshit.

J.
Krib
2004-09-25 14:47:02 UTC
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Post by Krib
Why do you keep avoiding the facts guernon?
You have consistently failed to provide anything but
your opinion and that, as has been proved, is totally
worthless.
You can only spew total bullshit.
Yet I answer your queries and provide evidence for my points, *you*
just lie and make stuff up. How many times have you avoided the issues
and facts now guernon?
Post by Jean Guernon
Puke a little more chickenshit.
Still can't answer huh? you're out of your league old man. ;0)
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krib

guernon: the exegete of pissing himself with fear and running from
the truth.
Jean Guernon
2004-09-27 01:01:16 UTC
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Krib
2004-09-27 13:06:00 UTC
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"Jean Guernon" <***@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:wDJ5d.118589$***@edtnps89...
Only thing you've said lately that made any sense guernon ;0)
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krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-27 18:47:53 UTC
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Read the header again.

That is ALL I say because it is no use debunking your lies, you keep
making them just like tw and flyshit, I wouldn't be surprised if you
were either.

And ALL I say is what YOU said you do.

So you are admitting being a liar now? LOL

Thank you very much.

Read the header again.

J.
Post by Krib
Only thing you've said lately that made any sense guernon ;0)
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krib
Krib
2004-09-27 22:14:45 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
Read the header again.
That is ALL I say
Just another in your long list of lies then guernon, here's another
that started our little debate in this thread, you said...
"Kissing up to the Islamic murderers covering up and excusing the
atrocities they commit (in order to get Dr, Germ to work Saddam's WMD
for them), now. A new low."

And, after requesting exactly how you deem I am "Kissing up" to
these murderers you found yourself unable to answer because you
were lying yet again.

I notice that despite the incredible amount of bullshit you've poured
into our various conversations you have never provided a single instance
of fact to back up any of your pathetic accusations, relying instead on
your own bigotry, stupidity and ignorance to try to wriggle out of
doing so.
Post by Jean Guernon
because it is no use debunking your lies,
If you could debunk them guernon then you would, the reason you don't
is because you can't.
Post by Jean Guernon
you keep making them
You care to deny now that you actually joined the USMC then guernon?
Was I lying when I said you didn't? yes or no. That I believe you
reneged on a commitment is my opinion but it doesn't change the facts.

You care to deny in another thread that you were so stupid as to mistake
NORAD for NORAID? yes or no? indeed your inability to read correctly
led you to be so stupid to read that I accused the US government of
supporting
terrorism, I didn't. Yet you lied, again, when you said that Americans
ensure
none of their money goes to terrorist causes.

The more we debated the more bullshit you spewed into it and not once
could you provide anything other than your own bigotry as evidence.
Post by Jean Guernon
just like tw and flyshit, I wouldn't be surprised if you
were either.
Proving you're as stupid as I said earlier.
Post by Jean Guernon
And ALL I say is what YOU said you do.
You should learn to read then guernon.
Post by Jean Guernon
So you are admitting being a liar now? LOL
Feel free to show me how even a moronic cowardly liar like you could
leap to such a stupid conclusion guernon but, as in every single thread
we've argued, you can't.
Post by Jean Guernon
Thank you very much.
Care to revisit any of your posts and provide a single solitary fact?
What's that you bed wetting, cowardly piece of shit, you can't?
This is the same clouded mind that you use to produce the very little
you have done about the seer's work, no ownder you couldn't even
do that yourself LOL.

Keep trying you piece of yellow shit.
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krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-28 00:18:01 UTC
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Read the header again.
That is ALL I say
Krib, HEADER!

Time for you to vomit a little more.

J.
Krib
2004-09-28 08:36:22 UTC
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Krib, HEADER!
What's that you say guernon? you *still* can't produce
a single fact so you're hiding behind name calling?

Ah well, you've been proven wrong *yet* again then ;0)
Post by Jean Guernon
Time for you to vomit a little more.
Oh dear, is *this* all you can hide behind now yellow slime?
Pity you couldn't hide behinf truth or facts isn't it ;0)

Run along bitch, another thread where you've been proven a liar,
hypocrite and a fraud. See you in the next one guerniebabe ;0)
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krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-28 12:37:11 UTC
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Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Krib, HEADER!
What's that you say guernon? you *still* can't produce
a single fact so you're hiding behind name calling?
Ah well, you've been proven wrong *yet* again then ;0)
Post by Jean Guernon
Time for you to vomit a little more.
Oh dear, is *this* all you can hide behind now yellow slime?
Pity you couldn't hide behinf truth or facts isn't it ;0)
Only in your puke little dreams.
Post by Krib
Run along bitch, another thread where you've been proven a liar,
hypocrite and a fraud. See you in the next one guerniebabe ;0)
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krib
Dream on, I stay here even if I shit on you and your shit posts.

Read the header again Krib the asshole.

J.
Krib
2004-09-28 15:31:41 UTC
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Post by Krib
What's that you say guernon? you *still* can't produce
a single fact so you're hiding behind name calling?
Ah well, you've been proven wrong *yet* again then ;0)
Only in your puke little dreams.
Nope guernon no dreams about you just the facts. You know FACTS,
those things you conveniently ignore when you post your lies, bigotry,
hypocrisy and ignorance in your posts. Those things you pretend to
discuss but can never actually bring yourself to show.
Post by Jean Guernon
Dream on, I stay here even if I shit on you and your shit posts.
You have a seriously sick fetish for the scatological guernon that's
just nasty.
Post by Jean Guernon
Read the header again Krib the asshole.
Why? do you need me to explain that to you as well guernon?
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krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-28 16:42:06 UTC
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Nah, only in your dreams. Go puke a little more and come back for more
punishment.

J.
Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
What's that you say guernon? you *still* can't produce
a single fact so you're hiding behind name calling?
Ah well, you've been proven wrong *yet* again then ;0)
Only in your puke little dreams.
Nope guernon no dreams about you just the facts. You know FACTS,
those things you conveniently ignore when you post your lies, bigotry,
hypocrisy and ignorance in your posts. Those things you pretend to
discuss but can never actually bring yourself to show.
Post by Jean Guernon
Dream on, I stay here even if I shit on you and your shit posts.
You have a seriously sick fetish for the scatological guernon that's
just nasty.
Post by Jean Guernon
Read the header again Krib the asshole.
Why? do you need me to explain that to you as well guernon?
--
krib
Su Zanadu
2004-09-24 00:30:36 UTC
Permalink
dw,

There is no need to promote that awful stuff.

Most of us know where to find that if we *actually* wanted to look at
it.

I know I don't!

If that was one of your family members....would you want it spread
around as entertainment for the sick and demented?

Be a MAN for once, a huMAN, would you, could you, will you please?


SuZanne
Su Zanadu
2004-09-24 00:39:19 UTC
Permalink
dw,

There is no need to promote that awful stuff.

Most of us know where to find that if we *actually* wanted to look at
it.

I know I don't!

If that was one of your family members....would you want it spread
around as entertainment for the sick and demented?

Be a MAN for once....a huMAN.

Would you, could you, won't you please?


SuZanne
dreamwalker
2004-09-24 01:05:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Su Zanadu
dw,
There is no need to promote that awful stuff.
Most of us know where to find that if we *actually* wanted to look at
it.
I know I don't!
If that was one of your family members....would you want it spread
around as entertainment for the sick and demented?
Be a MAN for once....a huMAN.
Would you, could you, won't you please?
SuZanne
It's the real world my dear.
Cuan
2004-09-25 10:28:43 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:05:02 -0500, "dreamwalker"
Post by dreamwalker
Post by Su Zanadu
dw,
There is no need to promote that awful stuff.
Most of us know where to find that if we *actually* wanted to look at
it.
I know I don't!
If that was one of your family members....would you want it spread
around as entertainment for the sick and demented?
Be a MAN for once....a huMAN.
Would you, could you, won't you please?
SuZanne
It's the real world my dear.
All thanks to Mr. Bush. I know why you enjoy it, in that case.
dreamwalker
2004-09-26 22:58:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cuan
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:05:02 -0500, "dreamwalker"
Post by dreamwalker
Post by Su Zanadu
dw,
There is no need to promote that awful stuff.
Most of us know where to find that if we *actually* wanted to look at
it.
I know I don't!
If that was one of your family members....would you want it spread
around as entertainment for the sick and demented?
Be a MAN for once....a huMAN.
Would you, could you, won't you please?
SuZanne
It's the real world my dear.
All thanks to Mr. Bush. I know why you enjoy it, in that case.
Nonsense. Saddam was doing far worse. Never made it to video. Like many of your ilk, violence is
fine if you don't have to watch it. Dickhead.
Montgomery BOO...URNS
2004-09-27 01:17:42 UTC
Permalink
No!! You're the dickhead!!
Post by dreamwalker
Post by Cuan
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:05:02 -0500, "dreamwalker"
Post by dreamwalker
Post by Su Zanadu
dw,
There is no need to promote that awful stuff.
Most of us know where to find that if we *actually* wanted to look at
it.
I know I don't!
If that was one of your family members....would you want it spread
around as entertainment for the sick and demented?
Be a MAN for once....a huMAN.
Would you, could you, won't you please?
SuZanne
It's the real world my dear.
All thanks to Mr. Bush. I know why you enjoy it, in that case.
Nonsense. Saddam was doing far worse. Never made it to video. Like many of
your ilk, violence is fine if you don't have to watch it. Dickhead.
Montgomery BOO...URNS
2004-09-27 01:18:15 UTC
Permalink
I hope I run into you on the street you piece of s**t!!
Post by dreamwalker
Post by Cuan
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:05:02 -0500, "dreamwalker"
Post by dreamwalker
Post by Su Zanadu
dw,
There is no need to promote that awful stuff.
Most of us know where to find that if we *actually* wanted to look at
it.
I know I don't!
If that was one of your family members....would you want it spread
around as entertainment for the sick and demented?
Be a MAN for once....a huMAN.
Would you, could you, won't you please?
SuZanne
It's the real world my dear.
All thanks to Mr. Bush. I know why you enjoy it, in that case.
Nonsense. Saddam was doing far worse. Never made it to video. Like many of
your ilk, violence is fine if you don't have to watch it. Dickhead.
Jane
2004-09-27 04:17:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Montgomery BOO...URNS
I hope I run into you on the street you piece of s**t!!
Sounds like you won't, unless you are on the streets of Baghdad...Godspeed,
dreamwalker!
Post by Montgomery BOO...URNS
Post by dreamwalker
Post by Cuan
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:05:02 -0500, "dreamwalker"
Post by dreamwalker
Post by Su Zanadu
dw,
There is no need to promote that awful stuff.
Most of us know where to find that if we *actually* wanted to look at
it.
I know I don't!
If that was one of your family members....would you want it spread
around as entertainment for the sick and demented?
Be a MAN for once....a huMAN.
Would you, could you, won't you please?
SuZanne
It's the real world my dear.
All thanks to Mr. Bush. I know why you enjoy it, in that case.
Nonsense. Saddam was doing far worse. Never made it to video. Like many of
your ilk, violence is fine if you don't have to watch it. Dickhead.
Cuan
2004-09-27 10:27:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jane
Post by Montgomery BOO...URNS
I hope I run into you on the street you piece of s**t!!
Sounds like you won't, unless you are on the streets of Baghdad...Godspeed,
dreamwalker!
That's the last place you'd find dreamwalker. But, you're almost
right. He might find him between the wig-wams in the Indian
reservation. He'll be sitting there with his fellow countrymen
reminiscing of the goold ol' days scalping pale-faced settlers, while
watching beheadings on the internet.
Post by Jane
Post by Montgomery BOO...URNS
Post by dreamwalker
Post by Cuan
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:05:02 -0500, "dreamwalker"
Post by dreamwalker
Post by Su Zanadu
dw,
There is no need to promote that awful stuff.
Most of us know where to find that if we *actually* wanted to look at
it.
I know I don't!
If that was one of your family members....would you want it spread
around as entertainment for the sick and demented?
Be a MAN for once....a huMAN.
Would you, could you, won't you please?
SuZanne
It's the real world my dear.
All thanks to Mr. Bush. I know why you enjoy it, in that case.
Nonsense. Saddam was doing far worse. Never made it to video. Like many
of
Post by Montgomery BOO...URNS
Post by dreamwalker
your ilk, violence is fine if you don't have to watch it. Dickhead.
Cuan
2004-09-27 10:20:54 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 17:58:35 -0500, "dreamwalker"
Post by dreamwalker
Post by Cuan
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:05:02 -0500, "dreamwalker"
Post by dreamwalker
Post by Su Zanadu
dw,
There is no need to promote that awful stuff.
Most of us know where to find that if we *actually* wanted to look at
it.
I know I don't!
If that was one of your family members....would you want it spread
around as entertainment for the sick and demented?
Be a MAN for once....a huMAN.
Would you, could you, won't you please?
SuZanne
It's the real world my dear.
All thanks to Mr. Bush. I know why you enjoy it, in that case.
Nonsense. Saddam was doing far worse. Never made it to video. Like many of your ilk, violence is
fine if you don't have to watch it. Dickhead.
Aid workers and other foreign nationals were not being beheaded when
Saddam was around. Dickhead.
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 10:14:20 UTC
Permalink
Makes you see to what extent these Muslim animals are going to go in
order to get Dr. Germ.

What, you will not let your feeling about these Muslim subhuman bastards
be swayed by the truth of what they really do to innocents in order to
put their hands on someone who can help them use Saddam's WMDs very
likely, which will be shown then to cause a lot more atrocities that
your prima donna eyes will be shut tight to?

Tsss Just don't go look then.

The Muslim dogs still need to be destroyed for what they do, and one has
to look at their rabid perversion.

J.
Post by Su Zanadu
dw,
There is no need to promote that awful stuff.
Most of us know where to find that if we *actually* wanted to look at
it.
I know I don't!
If that was one of your family members....would you want it spread
around as entertainment for the sick and demented?
Be a MAN for once....a huMAN.
Would you, could you, won't you please?
SuZanne
Barbarossa
2004-09-24 02:50:39 UTC
Permalink
I watched them, I totally condem these acts of totally cruel barbarism.

Before USA/UK invaded Iraq this did not happen

Bush and Blair are to blaim as well, they went into a war totally unprepared
and totally ignorant of the consequences. They opened the box of Pandora.

These men died for the oil Bush and Cheney so desperately want to make
big profits. It is totally disgusting.

My sincere condolences for the families and friends of these men.

Regards,
Barbarossa
"dreamwalker" <***@dead.net> schreef in bericht news:19e5b$41535218$407626b2$***@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...
Complete with Arabian musical score. I'm sure Dr Blunt and AK will enjoy both. Vids of the two Italian woman should be up shortly. Brought to you by the wonderful world of Islamic radicalism.

http://www.goregasm.com/movies/ogrish-dot-com-jack-hensley-beheading-video.wmv


http://4.78.57.43/ogrish-dot-com-eugene-armstrong-beheading-video.wmv
Jane
2004-09-24 04:17:29 UTC
Permalink
"Barbarossa" <***@skynet.be> wrote in message news:41538b38$0$11678$***@news.skynet.be...
I watched them, I totally condem these acts of totally cruel barbarism.

Before USA/UK invaded Iraq this did not happen

So the ones wielding the sword are innocent?

Bush and Blair are to blaim as well, they went into a war totally unprepared
and totally ignorant of the consequences. They opened the box of Pandora.

These men died for the oil Bush and Cheney so desperately want to make
big profits. It is totally disgusting.

My sincere condolences for the families and friends of these men.

Regards,
Barbarossa
"dreamwalker" <***@dead.net> schreef in bericht news:19e5b$41535218$407626b2$***@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...
Complete with Arabian musical score. I'm sure Dr Blunt and AK will enjoy both. Vids of the two Italian woman should be up shortly. Brought to you by the wonderful world of Islamic radicalism.

http://www.goregasm.com/movies/ogrish-dot-com-jack-hensley-beheading-video.wmv


http://4.78.57.43/ogrish-dot-com-eugene-armstrong-beheading-video.wmv
Barbarossa
2004-09-24 15:39:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
I watched them, I totally condem these acts of totally cruel barbarism.
Before USA/UK invaded Iraq this did not happen
So the ones wielding the sword are innocent?
Where did you see me posting that?
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
Bush and Blair are to blaim as well, they went into a war totally unprepared
and totally ignorant of the consequences. They opened the box of Pandora.
These men died for the oil Bush and Cheney so desperately want to make
big profits. It is totally disgusting.
My sincere condolences for the families and friends of these men.
Please address the real issues here Jane.

Kind regards,
Barbarossa
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 16:42:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Barbarossa
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
I watched them, I totally condem these acts of totally cruel barbarism.
Before USA/UK invaded Iraq this did not happen
So the ones wielding the sword are innocent?
Where did you see me posting that?
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
Bush and Blair are to blaim as well, they went into a war totally
unprepared
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
and totally ignorant of the consequences. They opened the box of Pandora.
These men died for the oil Bush and Cheney so desperately want to make
big profits. It is totally disgusting.
My sincere condolences for the families and friends of these men.
Please address the real issues here Jane.
Kind regards,
Barbarossa
What real issue? That it wouldn'T have happened because Saddam had
killed hundreds of thousands who simply had bad thoughts?

So it is a democracy now, deal with it.

The assholes will be eliminated nonetheless, but not because they don't
think like Saddam.

J.
Barbarossa
2004-09-24 18:57:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Barbarossa
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
I watched them, I totally condem these acts of totally cruel barbarism.
Before USA/UK invaded Iraq this did not happen
So the ones wielding the sword are innocent?
Where did you see me posting that?
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
Bush and Blair are to blaim as well, they went into a war totally
unprepared
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
and totally ignorant of the consequences. They opened the box of Pandora.
These men died for the oil Bush and Cheney so desperately want to make
big profits. It is totally disgusting.
My sincere condolences for the families and friends of these men.
Please address the real issues here Jane.
Kind regards,
Barbarossa
What real issue? That it wouldn'T have happened because Saddam had
killed hundreds of thousands who simply had bad thoughts?
So it is a democracy now, deal with it.
The assholes will be eliminated nonetheless, but not because they don't
think like Saddam.
Well, Bush sounds less and less convincing that it's going good in Iraq.
More and more people are abducted and beheaded. The USA is out
of almost all main cities, only controling the big sandsurface.

Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 21:02:01 UTC
Permalink
Bah, Allawi is helping out and TOTALLY debunking the anti-American
Kerry!! LOL

J.
Post by Barbarossa
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Barbarossa
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
I watched them, I totally condem these acts of totally cruel barbarism.
Before USA/UK invaded Iraq this did not happen
So the ones wielding the sword are innocent?
Where did you see me posting that?
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
Bush and Blair are to blaim as well, they went into a war totally
unprepared
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
and totally ignorant of the consequences. They opened the box of
Pandora.
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Barbarossa
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
These men died for the oil Bush and Cheney so desperately want to make
big profits. It is totally disgusting.
My sincere condolences for the families and friends of these men.
Please address the real issues here Jane.
Kind regards,
Barbarossa
What real issue? That it wouldn'T have happened because Saddam had
killed hundreds of thousands who simply had bad thoughts?
So it is a democracy now, deal with it.
The assholes will be eliminated nonetheless, but not because they don't
think like Saddam.
Well, Bush sounds less and less convincing that it's going good in Iraq.
More and more people are abducted and beheaded. The USA is out
of almost all main cities, only controling the big sandsurface.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Marvin The Paranoid Android
2004-09-27 22:32:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Bah, Allawi is helping out and TOTALLY debunking the anti-American
Kerry!! LOL
J.
Ha Ha Ha ... and apparently he's been debunking Colin Powell too ... Powell
says Bush and Allawi are both full of shit.

Kerry served in Vietnam ... you didn't. Yet he's anti-American??

You're blinders seem to firmly fixed in place.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52400-2004Sep26.html

Iraq Uprising Growing, Powell Says
Successful Elections Seen as Way to Alleviate Muslim Anger

By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 27, 2004; Page A14

Secretary of State Colin L. Powell said yesterday that the insurgency in
Iraq is getting worse and that the U.S. occupation there has increased
anti-American sentiment in Muslim countries, but he said successful
elections in Afghanistan and Iraq would turn the situation around.

"We have seen an increase in anti-Americanism in the Muslim world. We'll not
deny this," Powell said on ABC's "This Week." "But I think that that will be
overcome in due process because what the Muslim world will see . . . is that
in Afghanistan, 10 million people who have registered to vote will vote on
the ninth of October and bring in place a freely elected president.

"And I think we're going to do the same thing in Iraq if we stay the course,
if we defeat this insurgency," Powell said.

He acknowledged that "yes, it's getting worse, and the reason it's getting
worse is that they are determined to disrupt the elections."

But he rejected the notion, put forward recently by Defense Secretary Donald
H. Rumsfeld, that it would be sufficient to hold elections in most, but not
all, of Iraq.

"For the elections to have complete credibility and stand the test of
international scrutiny, I think what we have to do is to give all the people
of Iraq an opportunity to participate," Powell told "Fox News Sunday." "Just
as we would have difficulty with partial elections here in the United States
. . . I think it has to be throughout the country."

In contrast, Gen. John P. Abizaid, U.S. commander for the Middle East, told
NBC's "Meet the Press" that the goal is that "the election will be able to
be held in the vast majority of the country."

The election, to be held by Jan. 31, will create a national assembly, which
in turn will pick a new government to replace the one headed by interim
Prime Minister Ayad Allawi. The assembly will also oversee the writing of a
new constitution.

"I am not predicting victory by January at the end of the elections,"
Abizaid cautioned. "I am predicting that we'll have elections. We will fight
our way through the elections. It will be tough. It will be hard. But it
will move us a step closer to ultimate victory, which is when Iraqis control
their own destiny."

Abizaid said he found the CIA's recent assessment of Iraq's future over 18
months to be "overly pessimistic." The classified National Intelligence
Estimate, which Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee have asked
the CIA to declassify, predicted a tenuous stability at best and, in the
worst-case scenario, civil war.

Powell, on Fox News, said the CIA report "wasn't a terribly shocking
assessment. It was something that I could have written myself."

The assessment contrasted with President Bush's and Allawi's more optimistic
portrayal of Iraq's short-term future.

Abizaid criticized news reports that the insurgency was spreading among the
general population. "The constant drumbeat in Washington of a war that is
being lost, that can't be won, of a resistance that is out of control,
simply do not square with the facts on the ground," he said.

Statistics compiled by Kroll Security International, a private security firm
working for the U.S. government, indicate the attacks against U.S. troops,
security forces and private contractors are greater than reported by the
U.S. military and have spread to parts of the country that have been
relatively peaceful, according to a report Sunday in The Washington Post.

Powell confirmed a second report in The Post that military plans are
underway for a fall offensive aimed at regaining control of the most
volatile cities in the Sunni Triangle, including Fallujah and the provincial
capitals near Baghdad, such as Ramadi to the west, Samarra to the north and
Baqubah to the northeast.

The plan calls for opening up these areas so that Iraqi forces can move back
in and secure the towns in preparation for balloting.

© 2004 The Washington Post Company
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Barbarossa
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Barbarossa
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
I watched them, I totally condem these acts of totally cruel barbarism.
Before USA/UK invaded Iraq this did not happen
So the ones wielding the sword are innocent?
Where did you see me posting that?
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
Bush and Blair are to blaim as well, they went into a war totally
unprepared
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
and totally ignorant of the consequences. They opened the box of
Pandora.
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Barbarossa
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
These men died for the oil Bush and Cheney so desperately want to make
big profits. It is totally disgusting.
My sincere condolences for the families and friends of these men.
Please address the real issues here Jane.
Kind regards,
Barbarossa
What real issue? That it wouldn'T have happened because Saddam had
killed hundreds of thousands who simply had bad thoughts?
So it is a democracy now, deal with it.
The assholes will be eliminated nonetheless, but not because they don't
think like Saddam.
Well, Bush sounds less and less convincing that it's going good in Iraq.
More and more people are abducted and beheaded. The USA is out
of almost all main cities, only controling the big sandsurface.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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2004-09-28 00:16:30 UTC
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Post by Marvin The Paranoid Android
Post by Jean Guernon
Bah, Allawi is helping out and TOTALLY debunking the anti-American
Kerry!! LOL
J.
Ha Ha Ha ... and apparently he's been debunking Colin Powell too ... Powell
says Bush and Allawi are both full of shit.
Where do you get your propaganda lies from? The Democrats?

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/36491.htm
------------------------------------------------------------------------
MR. WALLACE: I'd like to begin by playing some comments that the
President and Vice President made this week regarding Senator Kerry's
critique of their foreign policy. Take a look.
PRESIDENT BUSH: You can embolden an enemy by sending a mixed message.
You can dispirit the Iraqi people by sending mixed messages.
VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: John Kerry is trying to tear down all the good
that has been accomplished, and his words are destructive to our effort
in Iraq and in the global war on terror.
MR. WALLACE: Does the Bush Administration feel that Senator Kerry's
statements are making it harder to wage the war on terror and the war in
Iraq?
SECRETARY POWELL: Chris, as Secretary of State, I'd rather not get into
campaign commentary between the different candidates. I will say this:
That as we saw from Prime Minister Allawi earlier in the week, a great
deal of progress has taken place in Iraq. We are moving forward. Schools
are opening. Municipal elections are being held. We are fighting a tough
insurgency. It's an insurgency that we have to defeat, and we are going
to defeat it and get to elections at the end of January of 2005. And
everything we can do to make sure that we stay on that track and support
our troops, we should do.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

I sounds to me like he agrees with the president and Mr. Allawi.

Why do you lie? Why do they lie about this? To undermine the moral of
the troops?

And BTW, one needs to have a brain to make the proper nuances to insure
this. What Powell said about this lie the dems made that...

------------------------------------------------------------------------
The President was asked this week why his talk about the situation in
Iraq is so much rosier than the best estimate of the intelligence
community. Here was his answer. Take a look:
The President was asked this week why his talk about the situation in
Iraq is so much rosier than the best estimate of the intelligence
community. Here was his answer. Take a look:
PRESIDENT BUSH: The CIA laid out a -- several scenarios that said, life
could be lousy, life could be okay or life could be better. And they
were just guessing as to what the conditions might be like.
MR. WALLACE: The President said later that he should have said estimate,
not guess, but didn't he mischaracterizes what the NIE says? Didn't it,
in fact, say the situation could be bad, worse or civil war?
SECRETARY POWELL: It was an NIE, and I was with the President when he
made that comment. And what he really meant to say was, these are
estimates. And in effect, the NIE laid out a sober assessment of
potential alternative outcomes. And they always tend to focus on sort of
the worst case so that policy makers can think about worst-case responses.
But I think there are many alternatives into the future, and the best
alternative, and the one we're pursuing and the one that really is
achievable is to continue fighting this insurgency, which is going to
get harder because these individuals are determined that the Iraqi
people will not have a free election, that they are going to go back to
the past to the days of dictatorship and totalitarianism. And we cannot
allow them to succeed.
If there's one thing we all agree on, and the international community
agrees on, is that these thugs and murderers cannot be allowed to
succeed. So there are some tough days ahead, there is tough fighting
ahead. But what is at the end of this when we defeat this insurgency is
the Iraqi people will get to choose their own leaders, write their own
constitution and ratify it next year, and then have full, free, fair
elections for their final government and parliament; and the United
States having built up Iraqi forces, can begin withdrawal.
MR. WALLACE: But Mr. Secretary, what some people are wondering is, the
National Intelligence Estimate is a serious document. It is the best
estimate -- I don't have to tell you -- of the intelligence community.
The President, in some measure took this country to war based on the NIE
back in October of 2002 that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass
destruction. Why now, when the NIE says, things are going badly in Iraq,
is it just guessing or estimating?
SECRETARY POWELL: The NIE gives potential courses that could be
followed. Things might turn out this way. But it is an estimate. And you
can shape each of these alternatives. We ask our intelligence people to
give us a sober assessment of what might happen. Then, you just don't
follow that path or expect that path to be predetermined; you can
influence that path by the actions you take. And so I read it as a very
sober assessment. It wasn't a terribly shocking assessment. It was
something that I could have written myself, and I'm glad the NIE was
done in such a capable way by our intelligence folks. But what we have
to do is shape events and take what the NIE says to us, and influence
events, not just say, "this is going to happen because it's written in a
document." It'll only happen if we don't take action to keep it from
happening that way.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

He doesn't seem to disagree at all with Mr. Bush... on the contrary, he
says that the National Intelligence Estimates are merely potential
scenarios that are merely likely, because the terrorists assholes try to
disrupt the elections, and will come to pass only if nothing is done.

So the only lies are with Kerry's gang of demoralizing bullies against
their commander in chief, see? Or maybe you don't have the brain either
and make simplistic assertions that have no ground and do not match with
what Powell says.

J.

[snip total bullshit made up by unpatriotic Kerry which is debunked here]


P.S. BTW, glad to see you agree with Colin Powell, he also said that
about the UN weasel Secretary General Kofi Annan this past week
suggested that the whole U.S.-led war in Iraq was illegal:

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/36495.htm
------------------------------------------------------------------------
MR. BLITZER: The -- UN Secretary General Kofi Annan this past week
suggested that the whole U.S.-led war in Iraq was illegal. I want you to
listen to what he said.
SECRETARY GENERAL ANNAN: Those who seek to bestow legitimacy must
themselves embody it. And those who invoke international law must
themselves submit to it.
MR. BLITZER: Tough words.
SECRETARY POWELL: Yeah, he didn't specifically identify Iraq in his
speech. He did a week earlier though, to be precise.
MR. BLITZER: In that BBC interview.
SECRETARY POWELL: In a BBC interview he used the language that it was
illegal. We disagree with that. We believe it is legal and we have a
strong case to make. And we've made that case.
In his comments earlier this week at the UN in his speech, he was
talking about legitimacy both within everyone's nation and then as we
conduct international affairs. And we certainly subscribe to the notion
of legitimacy in what we do. And what we did in Iraq, we think, rested
on a solid legal base. A legal base that reflected twelve years worth of
UN resolutions directed against the Saddam Hussein regime, with which
they did not comply. That's the reason President Clinton went after them
in 1998 in Operation Desert Fox when he bombed for four years.
UN Resolution 1441, in our judgment, the resolution before the war, in
our judgment, provided a sufficient legal base on top of all of the
other previous resolutions.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 11:40:01 UTC
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Post by Barbarossa
I watched them, I totally condem these acts of totally cruel barbarism.
Before USA/UK invaded Iraq this did not happen
No excuse. Fuck you for trying to justify this.
Post by Barbarossa
Bush and Blair are to blaim as well, they went into a war totally unprepared
and totally ignorant of the consequences. They opened the box of Pandora.
Bullshit. Total barbarism is no excuse and unforeseen consequences are
made up by by the unprecedented barbarism of these MUSLIM murderers.
Post by Barbarossa
These men died for the oil Bush and Cheney so desperately want to make
big profits. It is totally disgusting.
Lie. You lick their ass like you lick the ass of your girl friend
barbaric barbara. Oil has never been the reason to go there and you know
it, by lying about it to cover their ass you are as guilty as these
MUSLIM assholes.
Post by Barbarossa
My sincere condolences for the families and friends of these men.
Like anybody buys your sincerity.

J.
Post by Barbarossa
Regards,
Barbarossa
Complete with Arabian musical score. I'm sure Dr Blunt and AK will
enjoy both. Vids of the two Italian woman should be up shortly.
Brought to you by the wonderful world of Islamic radicalism.
http://www.goregasm.com/movies/ogrish-dot-com-jack-hensley-beheading-video.wmv
http://4.78.57.43/ogrish-dot-com-eugene-armstrong-beheading-video.wmv
AK
2004-09-24 13:10:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Barbarossa
Before USA/UK invaded Iraq this did not happen
No excuse. Fuck you for trying to justify this.
That's not a justification. It's an explanation. The US is responsible for
everything by invading a sovereign country illegally.
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 14:28:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by AK
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Barbarossa
Before USA/UK invaded Iraq this did not happen
No excuse. Fuck you for trying to justify this.
That's not a justification. It's an explanation. The US is responsible for
everything by invading a sovereign country illegally.
Bullshit. The Muslim thugs are responsible. Alqaeda and saddam murderers.

Ana is an asshole to even suggest that the invasion was illegal, he
should have head examined.

J.
AK
2004-09-24 15:25:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by AK
That's not a justification. It's an explanation. The US is responsible for
everything by invading a sovereign country illegally.
Bullshit. The Muslim thugs are responsible. Alqaeda and saddam murderers.
Nope. The illegal invaders are responsible. The foreigners were not being
kidnapped and beheaded before the invasion in Iraq. Now they are.
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 16:31:08 UTC
Permalink
Nope, the bandits are the sole responsible.

Do like barbarossa, eat shit.

J.
Post by AK
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by AK
That's not a justification. It's an explanation. The US is responsible for
everything by invading a sovereign country illegally.
Bullshit. The Muslim thugs are responsible. Alqaeda and saddam murderers.
Nope. The illegal invaders are responsible. The foreigners were not being
kidnapped and beheaded before the invasion in Iraq. Now they are.
Barbarossa
2004-09-24 18:59:38 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
Nope, the bandits are the sole responsible.
Do like barbarossa, eat shit.
Jean Guernon has this idiotic idea that when your wife or girlfriend
is clean about herself and you like to stimulate her anus orally you
somehow eat shit.

He has no experience is this matter, but keeps on lying about it.

Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Jane
2004-09-25 04:08:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Barbarossa
Post by Jean Guernon
Nope, the bandits are the sole responsible.
Do like barbarossa, eat shit.
Jean Guernon has this idiotic idea that when your wife or girlfriend
is clean about herself and you like to stimulate her anus orally you
somehow eat shit.
He has no experience is this matter, but keeps on lying about it.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
And why the hell are we talking about it here? Go to
alt.oralstimulation.anus or something!

Jane
Barbarossa
2004-09-25 14:31:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jane
Post by Barbarossa
Post by Jean Guernon
Nope, the bandits are the sole responsible.
Do like barbarossa, eat shit.
Jean Guernon has this idiotic idea that when your wife or girlfriend
is clean about herself and you like to stimulate her anus orally you
somehow eat shit.
He has no experience is this matter, but keeps on lying about it.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
And why the hell are we talking about it here? Go to
alt.oralstimulation.anus or something!
Ask Jean Guernon, he is the one repeating the words "ass", "kissing",
"butt" and the like over and over and over again. I surely did not start
that! So, maybe you should suggest something like that to JG.

Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Barbarossa
2004-09-24 15:36:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Barbarossa
I watched them, I totally condem these acts of totally cruel barbarism.
Before USA/UK invaded Iraq this did not happen
No excuse. Fuck you for trying to justify this.
Post by Barbarossa
Bush and Blair are to blaim as well, they went into a war totally unprepared
and totally ignorant of the consequences. They opened the box of Pandora.
Bullshit. Total barbarism is no excuse and unforeseen consequences are
made up by by the unprecedented barbarism of these MUSLIM murderers.
Post by Barbarossa
These men died for the oil Bush and Cheney so desperately want to make
big profits. It is totally disgusting.
Lie. You lick their ass like you lick the ass of your girl friend
barbaric barbara. Oil has never been the reason to go there and you know
it, by lying about it to cover their ass you are as guilty as these
MUSLIM assholes.
Post by Barbarossa
My sincere condolences for the families and friends of these men.
Like anybody buys your sincerity.
You should wonder about the sincerity and credibility of Bush who keeps
insisting that everything in Iraq is going good. These beheadings show
abundantly otherwise, meaning your precious president is lying.

Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 16:37:55 UTC
Permalink
Bah the prime minister of Iraq was clear as to the situation,
contradicting Hanoi Kerry to the bone.

It will never be perfect in Iraq. Unless there is total dictatorship
like with Saddam and hundreds of thousands are killed.

Muslims don't know how to behave.

J.
Post by Barbarossa
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Barbarossa
I watched them, I totally condem these acts of totally cruel barbarism.
Before USA/UK invaded Iraq this did not happen
No excuse. Fuck you for trying to justify this.
Post by Barbarossa
Bush and Blair are to blaim as well, they went into a war totally
unprepared
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Barbarossa
and totally ignorant of the consequences. They opened the box of
Pandora.
Post by Jean Guernon
Bullshit. Total barbarism is no excuse and unforeseen consequences are
made up by by the unprecedented barbarism of these MUSLIM murderers.
Post by Barbarossa
These men died for the oil Bush and Cheney so desperately want to make
big profits. It is totally disgusting.
Lie. You lick their ass like you lick the ass of your girl friend
barbaric barbara. Oil has never been the reason to go there and you know
it, by lying about it to cover their ass you are as guilty as these
MUSLIM assholes.
Post by Barbarossa
My sincere condolences for the families and friends of these men.
Like anybody buys your sincerity.
You should wonder about the sincerity and credibility of Bush who keeps
insisting that everything in Iraq is going good. These beheadings show
abundantly otherwise, meaning your precious president is lying.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 09:37:39 UTC
Permalink
You know what I think it shows, that they have Saddam's WMDs but they
need Dr. Germ to know how to use them.

J.
Post by dreamwalker
Complete with Arabian musical score. I'm sure Dr Blunt and AK will enjoy
both. Vids of the two Italian woman should be up shortly. Brought to you
by the wonderful world of Islamic radicalism.
http://www.goregasm.com/movies/ogrish-dot-com-jack-hensley-beheading-video.wmv
http://4.78.57.43/ogrish-dot-com-eugene-armstrong-beheading-video.wmv
Marvin The Paranoid Android
2004-09-24 10:49:13 UTC
Permalink
Jean,

Turn off the 'Fantasy Channel' and go to bed.

You accuse everyone here of being anti-semite, but I'm surprised how few
people accuse you of your blatent bias and hatred towards Islamic persons.
Post by Jean Guernon
You know what I think it shows, that they have Saddam's WMDs but they
need Dr. Germ to know how to use them.
J.
Post by dreamwalker
Complete with Arabian musical score. I'm sure Dr Blunt and AK will enjoy
both. Vids of the two Italian woman should be up shortly. Brought to you
by the wonderful world of Islamic radicalism.
http://www.goregasm.com/movies/ogrish-dot-com-jack-hensley-beheading-video.wmv
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by dreamwalker
http://4.78.57.43/ogrish-dot-com-eugene-armstrong-beheading-video.wmv
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 13:41:06 UTC
Permalink
Because I only attack bad muslims, not the good ones, who don't support
in any way the bad ones. I don't kiss the bad ones' asses, like you
apparently do.

J.
Post by Marvin The Paranoid Android
Jean,
Turn off the 'Fantasy Channel' and go to bed.
You accuse everyone here of being anti-semite, but I'm surprised how few
people accuse you of your blatent bias and hatred towards Islamic persons.
Post by Jean Guernon
You know what I think it shows, that they have Saddam's WMDs but they
need Dr. Germ to know how to use them.
J.
Post by dreamwalker
Complete with Arabian musical score. I'm sure Dr Blunt and AK will enjoy
both. Vids of the two Italian woman should be up shortly. Brought to you
by the wonderful world of Islamic radicalism.
http://www.goregasm.com/movies/ogrish-dot-com-jack-hensley-beheading-video.wmv
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by dreamwalker
http://4.78.57.43/ogrish-dot-com-eugene-armstrong-beheading-video.wmv
AK
2004-09-24 13:12:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
You know what I think it shows, that they have Saddam's WMDs but they
need Dr. Germ to know how to use them.
Their initial demand was that the US releases all the women that they are raping
in prisons. "Dr Germ" personality was brought into discussion by Iraqi puppet
government.
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 14:34:16 UTC
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Post by AK
Post by Jean Guernon
You know what I think it shows, that they have Saddam's WMDs but they
need Dr. Germ to know how to use them.
Their initial demand was that the US releases all the women that they are raping
in prisons. "Dr Germ" personality was brought into discussion by Iraqi puppet
government.
There are no women in the prisons dumbo. All this is lies by AlJazirah
and al Arabia and you.

They only have those two women in US custody who worked on the WMD of
Saddam and MUSLIM murderers want them to make WMDs.

They can kiss saddam's ass and so can you.

J.
AK
2004-09-24 15:26:27 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
There are no women in the prisons dumbo. All this is lies by AlJazirah
and al Arabia and you.
BAH

Abuse of an Iraqi woman in prison:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1308346,00.html

Women abused in prisons (orginally pblished in LA times)
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=4782

Iraqi women prisoners raped:
http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=478

Iraqi women raped in prisons:
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=10096

Women prisoners:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1220509,00.html

Abuse of women prisoners:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1214698,00.html

Iraqi Women and Tortured in prisons:
Part one: http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=6098
Part two: http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=6089

And I can continue posting many more sources

No wonder the insurgents are beheading people to stop their women being raped.

This has nothing to do with "Dr. Germ."
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 16:32:31 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
There are no women in the prisons dumbo. All this is lies by AlJazirah
and al Arabia and you.
BAH
[Propaganda lies links snipped]

This is pure lies, and has nothing to do with the facts that there are
no women in the jails.

J.
AK
2004-09-25 05:03:17 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
[Propaganda lies links snipped]
Prove the Guardian and LA Times are propaganda links.
Jean Guernon
2004-09-25 07:16:39 UTC
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Post by AK
Post by Jean Guernon
[Propaganda lies links snipped]
Prove the Guardian and LA Times are propaganda links.
If you say they say that there are women in jails besides the two
scientists that are in the custody of the Americans for WMD purpose,
then YOU prove they are. The facts prove it. There is no women in jail.

Please quote exact line in Guardian or LA times, where it says that
there are women still in jail (beside those two still interrogated for WMD).

I think someone lies, either you, or they. I want to see which.

Cite.

J.
Krib
2004-09-24 16:58:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
You know what I think it shows, that they have Saddam's WMDs but they
need Dr. Germ to know how to use them.
You mean their demand for the release of them? maybe, maybe not
but only a fool deals with hostage takers and I wouldn't expect
Bush or Blair to do that.
--
krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 17:19:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
You know what I think it shows, that they have Saddam's WMDs but they
need Dr. Germ to know how to use them.
You mean their demand for the release of them? maybe, maybe not
but only a fool deals with hostage takers and I wouldn't expect
Bush or Blair to do that.
--
krib
Right.

J.
Krib
2004-09-24 19:29:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Right.
What would a worthless nobody like you know about it guernon?
Just what does a yellow piece of shit like you know about war?
After all you pissed yourself with fear and ran from your
commitment to the USMC, nothing you say can be trusted.

It's a pity a pile of dung like you pollutes my newsgroup,
Keep hiding under your bed you gutless dog.
--
krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 20:59:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Right.
What would a worthless nobody like you know about it guernon?
More than a putrid yellow belly asshole like you krib.
Krib
2004-09-24 23:14:16 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
What would a worthless nobody like you know about it guernon?
More than a putrid yellow belly asshole like you krib.
You think? you really believe that a scabby old piece of shit like
you, who ran from military commitment while encouraging decent
young American men to fight for you, actually knows *anything* about war?


Is this why you call yourself "brave" and "honourable" then? a putrid
piece of cowardly filth like you who scuttled back to Canada after
taking the money from America while wasting their time? *that's*
your idea of honourable is it guernon? no surprise given you're a feeble
minded idiot.

Do tell guernon, *exactly* what experience you have of warfare then?
Speak up you spineless piece of rectal waste... how and where did you serve?

What's that guernon? can't answer *again* surprise surprise.

Even too gutless to admit you're a cowardly shitbag, you need to
pretend your cowardice is something else, how amusing you are ;0)

Which actions were you involved in? what unit did you serve for again
guernon? It was the pantshitting, cowards squad for scum like you.
The only action you saw was hiding under the bed while decent people
fought and died for their beliefs while garbage like you chickened out.

Decent servicemen and women laugh at filthy cowards like you and the
other gutless fucks that talk it up big but never have the guts to actually
get in the fight. You pathetic old has been, hiding your shame behind all
your pretence at supporting America.. you're funny guernon, funny in the
head.

Yeah run away guernon, that's the *only* thing a braindead chicken like you
is any good at.

guernon the exegete of pissing himself with fear ;0)
--
krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-25 06:30:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
What would a worthless nobody like you know about it guernon?
More than a putrid yellow belly asshole like you krib.
Read the line above, fly shit.

J.
[total idiotic pukle snipped]
Krib
2004-09-25 14:47:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
What would a worthless nobody like you know about it guernon?
More than a putrid yellow belly asshole like you krib.
Read the line above, fly shit.
Read it, dismissed it as the usual ravings of a senile egomaniac.

'you really believe that a scabby old piece of shit like
you, who ran from military commitment while encouraging decent
young American men to fight for you, actually knows *anything*
about war?'

Couldn't answer eh guernon ;0)

'Is this why you call yourself "brave" and "honourable" then? a putrid
piece of cowardly filth like you who scuttled back to Canada after
taking the money from America while wasting their time?'

Anti-American filth that you are, wasting recruiters valuable time
for a few measly dollars, pathetic cowardly garbage.

'Do tell guernon, *exactly* what experience you have of warfare then?'

None, nil, zero, but you're too cowardly to admit even that.

'Speak up you spineless piece of rectal waste... how and where did you
serve?'

You didn't, in your own laughable words "I served by not serving" says
the spineless coward who likes to pretend he actually knows something about
warfare but shit himself in fear when he had the chance to actually serve.

'What's that guernon? can't answer *again* surprise surprise.'

Becoming your whole method of reasoning guernon, stick your filthy, hairy
head in the sand and hope the truth will go away, well fuck you liar and
coward I'm happy to remind you just how despicable and laughable you are.

'guernon the exegete of pissing himself with fear ;0)'

LOL the *only* thing you know anything about, fraud.
Post by Jean Guernon
[total idiotic pukle snipped]
"pukle" guernon? making up your own words now? not enough that
you can't read and don't have the guts to answer facts you try
to squirm your way through a debate by making words up? LOL!

Feel free to keep hiding guernon, at least anyone stupid enough to
read these threads will see you for the utter useless piece of shit
you are.
--
krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-26 13:03:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
What would a worthless nobody like you know about it guernon?
More than a putrid yellow belly asshole like you krib.
Read the line above, fly shit.
Read it, dismissed it as the usual ravings of a senile egomaniac.
Read it again, you don't get it enough in your rotten brain.

J.

[snip debunked shit a long time ago]
Krib
2004-09-26 14:02:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Read it again, you don't get it enough in your rotten brain.
Ah I see, it's your usual reversal of facts then.

You answered by not answering, how very senile of you guernon ;0)

Not surprising that a piece of yellow shit like you keeps
avoiding the issues and dodging the questions, hiding is
your forte isn't it you gutless cur ;0)

You're dismissed guernon.
--
krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-27 00:00:04 UTC
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Krib
2004-09-27 13:06:00 UTC
Permalink
"Jean Guernon" <***@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:8KI5d.118190$***@edtnps89...
That's right guernon, if you can't say something without lying then
say nothing, you're learning old timer. ;0)
--
krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-27 18:47:18 UTC
Permalink
Read the header again.

That is ALL I say because it is no use debunking your lies, you keep
making them just like tw and flyshit, I wouldn't be surprised if you
were either.

And ALL I say is what YOU said you do.

So you are admitting being a liar now? LOL

Thank you very much.

Read the header again.

J.
Post by Krib
That's right guernon, if you can't say something without lying then
say nothing, you're learning old timer. ;0)
--
krib
Krib
2004-09-27 22:14:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Read the header again.
I'm more amused by the lies and fantasies in your posts you cowardly
yellow bastard. Tell me again how you're "beyond reproach" guernon
you money grabbing scumwad, then make me laugh again how you're
brave and honourable whilst you ran away from Vietnam and the USMC.

"i followed his lead, but didn't, betray my combat buddies. True I had no
combat buddies, but still." guernon's fantasy world talking about all the
"combat buddies he didn't betray because he didn't actually have any.
LOL and you have the nerve to crticise kerry's contribution to the
Vietnam war when you were to "brave" to go you fucking gutless hypocrite.

Tell me jeany, if Nostradamus is, like *you* say, a divine prophet
why is it that the Catholic church doesn't even recognise him as
genuine? why doesn't the Vatican recognise him as a prophet at all?
Especially when it recognises and acknowledges several others.
--
krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-27 23:36:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Read the header again.
I'm more amused by the lies and fantasies in your posts you cowardly
I never lie. Hey, Krib, the header...

J.
Krib
2004-09-28 08:36:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
I'm more amused by the lies and fantasies in your posts you cowardly
I never lie.
He lied. You're a liar guernon as I and others have shown.
You just can't accept that you can be wrong so you resort
to stupidity of this magnitude driven by your massive ego
and tiny intellect.
Post by Jean Guernon
Hey, Krib, the header...
Hey guernon, you ran away from this *again*, why? too scary
for a bed wetting, pant shitting coward like you?

Tell me jeany, if Nostradamus is, like *you* say, a divine prophet
why is it that the Catholic church doesn't even recognise him as
genuine? why doesn't the Vatican recognise him as a prophet at all?
Especially when it recognises and acknowledges several others.

Come on, you pretend to be an exegete, explain this for me ;0)
--
krib

"i followed his lead, but didn't, betray my combat buddies. True I had no
combat buddies, but still." guernon's fantasy world talking about all the
'combat buddies' he didn't betray because he didn't actually have any.
Jean Guernon
2004-09-28 12:51:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
I'm more amused by the lies and fantasies in your posts you cowardly
I never lie.
He lied. You're a liar guernon as I and others have shown.
You just can't accept that you can be wrong so you resort
to stupidity of this magnitude driven by your massive ego
and tiny intellect.
Post by Jean Guernon
Hey, Krib, the header...
Hey guernon, you ran away from this *again*, why? too scary
for a bed wetting, pant shitting coward like you?
Tell me jeany, if Nostradamus is, like *you* say, a divine prophet
why is it that the Catholic church doesn't even recognise him as
genuine? why doesn't the Vatican recognise him as a prophet at all?
Especially when it recognises and acknowledges several others.
Come on, you pretend to be an exegete, explain this for me ;0)
--
The Church isn't aware that the prophecies are revelations from God,
they are not enlightened enough yet I guess.

J.
Post by Krib
krib
"i followed his lead, but didn't, betray my combat buddies. True I had no
combat buddies, but still." guernon's fantasy world talking about all the
'combat buddies' he didn't betray because he didn't actually have any.
tw
2004-09-28 12:58:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
I'm more amused by the lies and fantasies in your posts you cowardly
I never lie.
He lied. You're a liar guernon as I and others have shown.
You just can't accept that you can be wrong so you resort
to stupidity of this magnitude driven by your massive ego
and tiny intellect.
Post by Jean Guernon
Hey, Krib, the header...
Hey guernon, you ran away from this *again*, why? too scary
for a bed wetting, pant shitting coward like you?
Tell me jeany, if Nostradamus is, like *you* say, a divine prophet
why is it that the Catholic church doesn't even recognise him as
genuine? why doesn't the Vatican recognise him as a prophet at all?
Especially when it recognises and acknowledges several others.
Come on, you pretend to be an exegete, explain this for me ;0)
--
The Church isn't aware that the prophecies are revelations from God,
they are not enlightened enough yet I guess.
..haven't smoked as much pot as you yet more like, you senile, impotent old
bed-wetting fool.
Jean Guernon
2004-09-28 14:33:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
I'm more amused by the lies and fantasies in your posts you cowardly
I never lie.
He lied. You're a liar guernon as I and others have shown.
You just can't accept that you can be wrong so you resort
to stupidity of this magnitude driven by your massive ego
and tiny intellect.
Post by Jean Guernon
Hey, Krib, the header...
Hey guernon, you ran away from this *again*, why? too scary
for a bed wetting, pant shitting coward like you?
Tell me jeany, if Nostradamus is, like *you* say, a divine prophet
why is it that the Catholic church doesn't even recognise him as
genuine? why doesn't the Vatican recognise him as a prophet at all?
Especially when it recognises and acknowledges several others.
Come on, you pretend to be an exegete, explain this for me ;0)
--
The Church isn't aware that the prophecies are revelations from God,
they are not enlightened enough yet I guess.
But it is probably because they aren't yet aware of your takes. Since we
are the ones who have properly interpreted the prophecies.

It is a matter of time.

J.


[Snipped post of tw the coward who spew lies while hiding his true name,
so that he can lie all he can.]
tw
2004-09-28 14:56:57 UTC
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Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
I'm more amused by the lies and fantasies in your posts you cowardly
I never lie.
He lied. You're a liar guernon as I and others have shown.
You just can't accept that you can be wrong so you resort
to stupidity of this magnitude driven by your massive ego
and tiny intellect.
Post by Jean Guernon
Hey, Krib, the header...
Hey guernon, you ran away from this *again*, why? too scary
for a bed wetting, pant shitting coward like you?
Tell me jeany, if Nostradamus is, like *you* say, a divine prophet
why is it that the Catholic church doesn't even recognise him as
genuine? why doesn't the Vatican recognise him as a prophet at all?
Especially when it recognises and acknowledges several others.
Come on, you pretend to be an exegete, explain this for me ;0)
--
The Church isn't aware that the prophecies are revelations from God,
they are not enlightened enough yet I guess.
But it is probably because they aren't yet aware of your takes. Since we
"We" DO you have a mouse in your pocket?
Post by Jean Guernon
are the ones who have properly interpreted the prophecies.
YOu are a deluded old pothead bed-wetting fool.
Post by Jean Guernon
It is a matter of time.
J.
[Snipped post of tw the coward who spew lies while hiding his true name,
Nope, I post under my true name. Prove you are really called Jean Guernon,
you foul cunt
Post by Jean Guernon
so that he can lie all he can.]
Jean Guernon
2004-09-28 15:15:25 UTC
Permalink
Dream on, liar.

J.
Post by tw
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
I'm more amused by the lies and fantasies in your posts you cowardly
I never lie.
He lied. You're a liar guernon as I and others have shown.
You just can't accept that you can be wrong so you resort
to stupidity of this magnitude driven by your massive ego
and tiny intellect.
Post by Jean Guernon
Hey, Krib, the header...
Hey guernon, you ran away from this *again*, why? too scary
for a bed wetting, pant shitting coward like you?
Tell me jeany, if Nostradamus is, like *you* say, a divine prophet
why is it that the Catholic church doesn't even recognise him as
genuine? why doesn't the Vatican recognise him as a prophet at all?
Especially when it recognises and acknowledges several others.
Come on, you pretend to be an exegete, explain this for me ;0)
--
The Church isn't aware that the prophecies are revelations from God,
they are not enlightened enough yet I guess.
But it is probably because they aren't yet aware of your takes. Since we
"We" DO you have a mouse in your pocket?
Post by Jean Guernon
are the ones who have properly interpreted the prophecies.
YOu are a deluded old pothead bed-wetting fool.
Post by Jean Guernon
It is a matter of time.
J.
[Snipped post of tw the coward who spew lies while hiding his true name,
Nope, I post under my true name. Prove you are really called Jean Guernon,
you foul cunt
Post by Jean Guernon
so that he can lie all he can.]
tw
2004-09-28 15:31:05 UTC
Permalink
In your dreams, fraudulent, impotent anti-semite cunt
Post by Jean Guernon
Dream on, liar.
J.
Post by tw
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
I'm more amused by the lies and fantasies in your posts you cowardly
I never lie.
He lied. You're a liar guernon as I and others have shown.
You just can't accept that you can be wrong so you resort
to stupidity of this magnitude driven by your massive ego
and tiny intellect.
Post by Jean Guernon
Hey, Krib, the header...
Hey guernon, you ran away from this *again*, why? too scary
for a bed wetting, pant shitting coward like you?
Tell me jeany, if Nostradamus is, like *you* say, a divine prophet
why is it that the Catholic church doesn't even recognise him as
genuine? why doesn't the Vatican recognise him as a prophet at all?
Especially when it recognises and acknowledges several others.
Come on, you pretend to be an exegete, explain this for me ;0)
--
The Church isn't aware that the prophecies are revelations from God,
they are not enlightened enough yet I guess.
But it is probably because they aren't yet aware of your takes. Since we
"We" DO you have a mouse in your pocket?
Post by Jean Guernon
are the ones who have properly interpreted the prophecies.
YOu are a deluded old pothead bed-wetting fool.
Post by Jean Guernon
It is a matter of time.
J.
[Snipped post of tw the coward who spew lies while hiding his true name,
Nope, I post under my true name. Prove you are really called Jean Guernon,
you foul cunt
Post by Jean Guernon
so that he can lie all he can.]
Krib
2004-09-28 15:26:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
Tell me jeany, if Nostradamus is, like *you* say, a divine prophet
why is it that the Catholic church doesn't even recognise him as
genuine? why doesn't the Vatican recognise him as a prophet at all?
Especially when it recognises and acknowledges several others.
The Church isn't aware that the prophecies are revelations from God,
they are not enlightened enough yet I guess.
You guess? you claim to be an expert, I seem to recall you saying you're
Catholic and unless one is a genuine divine prophet then divining the
future is a mortal sin in Catholicism. Surely this would amount to a
major part of your study?

According to the Catholic encyclopaedia the Vatican has examined and
rejected the seer's work as not falling under the Catholic definition
of prophecy.

The _Catechism of the Catholic Church_ gives the following guidance
on the subject of foretelling the future:

Paragraph 2115: "God can reveal the future to his prophets or to other
saints. Still, a Christian attitude consists in putting oneself confidently
into the hands of Providence for whatever concerns the future and giving
up all unhealthy curiosity about it. Improvidence, however, can constitute
a lack of responsibility.

2116: All forms of *divination* are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or
demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to
'unveil'
the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation
of
omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance and recourse to mediums all
conceal a desire for power over time, history, and in the last analysis,
other
human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict
t
he honor, respect and loving fear that we owe to God alone.

Any comments?
--
krib
Jean Guernon
2004-09-28 12:52:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Krib
I'm more amused by the lies and fantasies in your posts you cowardly
I never lie.
He lied. You're a liar guernon as I and others have shown.
You just can't accept that you can be wrong so you resort
to stupidity of this magnitude driven by your massive ego
and tiny intellect.
And no, I don't lie. But you do in all your posts.

Puke a little more, little shit.

J.
Post by Krib
Post by Jean Guernon
Hey, Krib, the header...
Hey guernon, you ran away from this *again*, why? too scary
for a bed wetting, pant shitting coward like you?
Tell me jeany, if Nostradamus is, like *you* say, a divine prophet
why is it that the Catholic church doesn't even recognise him as
genuine? why doesn't the Vatican recognise him as a prophet at all?
Especially when it recognises and acknowledges several others.
Come on, you pretend to be an exegete, explain this for me ;0)
--
krib
"i followed his lead, but didn't, betray my combat buddies. True I had no
combat buddies, but still." guernon's fantasy world talking about all the
'combat buddies' he didn't betray because he didn't actually have any.
Krib
2004-09-28 15:26:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by Jean Guernon
I never lie.
And no, I don't lie. But you do in all your posts.
You obviously believe it so let's look a little closer.

Tell me which if any of the following are lies...

1) After being accepted by the USMC you refused to join.
2) NORAID and INAC raise money for the IRA.
3) I am a communist
4) Some Americans support terrorism either actively or tacitly.
5) I am criminally insane
6) The British parliament were told unequivocally that WMD were
available at 45 minutes notice for use against British interests.
7) I support terrorists
8) No such WMD have been found and the ISG report they were never to be
found.
9) I am anti-USA
10) Even though you refused to join the USMC you accepted their expenses.

Then we'll actually discuss what *you* call lies.

A simple yes or no will suffice guernon. Read them S-L-O-W-L-Y I know how
stupid you are and have trouble understanding what you read. Let's see if
you
can actually debate your point rather than just hide behind name calling.

Of course if you decide to simply run away again then I'll have to assume
your
whimpering about "lies" is just another of your attempts to dodge the
issues.
--
krib
"i followed his lead, but didn't, betray my combat buddies. True I had no
combat buddies, but still." guernon's fantasy world talking about all the
'combat buddies' he didn't betray because he didn't actually have any.
AK
2004-09-24 13:33:54 UTC
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Post by dreamwalker
Complete with Arabian musical score
Fuck'em

You invaded a sovereign country by telling a lie (WMD). You murdered women and
children in the war. You raped children in prisons (Abu Ghraib). You are
occupying a sovereign country illegally. You installed a puppet CIA agent as
Prime Minister. You call this democracy. But you are whining when the people
fighting foreigner invaders behead them? What the hell?
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 14:48:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by AK
Post by dreamwalker
Complete with Arabian musical score
Fuck'em
You invaded a sovereign country by telling a lie (WMD). You murdered women and
children in the war. You raped children in prisons (Abu Ghraib). You are
occupying a sovereign country illegally. You installed a puppet CIA agent as
Prime Minister. You call this democracy. But you are whining when the people
fighting foreigner invaders behead them? What the hell?
Bah, this is not what happened. The UN made a resolution guaranteeing
the invasion on breaches, there were breaches, here was the invasion. .
No women or children are killed on purpose except by MUSLIMS MURDERERS.
A few idiots (less than ten) illegally made fun of prisoners and are
judged for it which is nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands
that Saddam killed. The prime minister is legitimate and legally
recognized by the UN. And the killers behead innocent civilians.

So all your lies which I admit you get from the arab media who incite to
violence and murder, are pure bullshit.

J.
AK
2004-09-24 15:27:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by AK
You invaded a sovereign country by telling a lie (WMD). You murdered women and
children in the war. You raped children in prisons (Abu Ghraib). You are
occupying a sovereign country illegally. You installed a puppet CIA agent as
Prime Minister. You call this democracy. But you are whining when the people
fighting foreigner invaders behead them? What the hell?
Bah, this is not what happened. The UN made a resolution guaranteeing
the invasion on breaches, there were breaches, here was the invasion. .
This is exactly what happened, even according to UN Secretary General, Kofi
Annan.
Jean Guernon
2004-09-24 16:33:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by AK
Post by Jean Guernon
Post by AK
You invaded a sovereign country by telling a lie (WMD). You murdered women and
children in the war. You raped children in prisons (Abu Ghraib). You are
occupying a sovereign country illegally. You installed a puppet CIA agent as
Prime Minister. You call this democracy. But you are whining when the people
fighting foreigner invaders behead them? What the hell?
Bah, this is not what happened. The UN made a resolution guaranteeing
the invasion on breaches, there were breaches, here was the invasion. .
This is exactly what happened, even according to UN Secretary General, Kofi
Annan.
Well, he should read the resolution he didn't sign BTW.

J.
Montgomery BOO...URNS
2004-09-26 23:02:54 UTC
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Are you a fucking sick terrorist too?? If you are, I hope you FUCKING BURN IN FUCKING HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! You are an ASSHOLE!! KILLER!! DEVIL!! PIECE OF SHIT!!

"dreamwalker" <***@dead.net> wrote in message news:19e5b$41535218$407626b2$***@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...
Complete with Arabian musical score. I'm sure Dr Blunt and AK will enjoy both. Vids of the two Italian woman should be up shortly. Brought to you by the wonderful world of Islamic radicalism.

http://www.goregasm.com/movies/ogrish-dot-com-jack-hensley-beheading-video.wmv


http://4.78.57.43/ogrish-dot-com-eugene-armstrong-beheading-video.wmv
Cuan
2004-09-27 10:28:28 UTC
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:02:54 -0400, "Montgomery BOO...URNS"
Post by Montgomery BOO...URNS
Are you a fucking sick terrorist too?? If you are, I hope you FUCKING BURN IN FUCKING HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! You are an ASSHOLE!! KILLER!! DEVIL!! PIECE OF SHIT!!
Right on the money with this one.
Marvin The Paranoid Android
2004-09-27 22:35:05 UTC
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Post by Cuan
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:02:54 -0400, "Montgomery BOO...URNS"
Post by Montgomery BOO...URNS
Are you a fucking sick terrorist too?? If you are, I hope you FUCKING
BURN IN FUCKING HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK
YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!
FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK
YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!!
FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK
YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!!
FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! You are an ASSHOLE!! KILLER!! DEVIL!! PIECE OF
SHIT!!
Post by Cuan
Right on the money with this one.
:-D


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Barbarossa
2004-09-27 00:36:50 UTC
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A few days later:

I think you did a good job in posting these links to this NG.
There is/was this debate going on in the USA whether you
should broadcast executions of people in the USA on TV,
perhaps you did your country a good favour by showing us
the barbaric nature of this. Perhaps the Americans should
just execute the people on death row the same way, that
should do the trick of getting more people against the
death penalty. So keep on doing the good work and post your
disgusting postings of killings in Iraq daily on this forum!

OTOH people tend to become immune by these images. And
people like Jane and Jean Guernon would love to see more
of these.

Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
"dreamwalker" <***@dead.net> schreef in bericht news:19e5b$41535218$407626b2$***@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...
Complete with Arabian musical score. I'm sure Dr Blunt and AK will enjoy both. Vids of the two Italian woman should be up shortly. Brought to you by the wonderful world of Islamic radicalism.

http://www.goregasm.com/movies/ogrish-dot-com-jack-hensley-beheading-video.wmv


http://4.78.57.43/ogrish-dot-com-eugene-armstrong-beheading-video.wmv
Jane
2004-09-27 04:16:12 UTC
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"Barbarossa" <***@skynet.be> wrote in message news:41576054$0$4205$***@news.skynet.be...
A few days later:

I think you did a good job in posting these links to this NG.
There is/was this debate going on in the USA whether you
should broadcast executions of people in the USA on TV,
perhaps you did your country a good favour by showing us
the barbaric nature of this. Perhaps the Americans should
just execute the people on death row the same way, that
should do the trick of getting more people against the
death penalty. So keep on doing the good work and post your
disgusting postings of killings in Iraq daily on this forum!

OTOH people tend to become immune by these images. And
people like Jane and Jean Guernon would love to see more
of these.

Try to speak only for yourself, please. I have no desire to look at those clips. There is a difference between executing a murderer and beheading an innocent.

Jane

Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
"dreamwalker" <***@dead.net> schreef in bericht news:19e5b$41535218$407626b2$***@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...
Complete with Arabian musical score. I'm sure Dr Blunt and AK will enjoy both. Vids of the two Italian woman should be up shortly. Brought to you by the wonderful world of Islamic radicalism.

http://www.goregasm.com/movies/ogrish-dot-com-jack-hensley-beheading-video.wmv


http://4.78.57.43/ogrish-dot-com-eugene-armstrong-beheading-video.wmv
Barbarossa
2004-09-27 01:12:55 UTC
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Post by dreamwalker
Complete with Arabian musical score. I'm sure Dr Blunt and AK will enjoy
both.
Post by dreamwalker
Vids of the two Italian woman should be up shortly. Brought to you by the
wonderful world of Islamic radicalism.
Why do you think these footages show up so easily on internet?
Think about this and think really hard about this.

Do you really think that the USA is powerless? Why is it possible for
the Mossad to track down Erich Eichmann so soon and why it is
that the USA only looks this desperate in its attempt to catch these
kind of killers? Do you really think that the USA is this kind of power-
less?

Are you really that blind and deaf? Do you really think that your USA
government cares about the death of these men? Not at all!

You have no clue about what is happening in this world today, of course
you insist you do, but you are totally clueless like Jean Guernon and Jane.

Do your research and you will find the answers.

Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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