The mother of all US Presidents drops the mother of all bombs

Post by docufo
As you may have noted in the headline news today, the USAF dropped the
"mother of all bombs" reportedly on a major underground facilities
belonging to ISIL in Afghanistan.
Trump hailed as it as "another successful job."
The 21,000+ lb. 30 foot guided non-nuclear bomb shook a 15- sq. mile
wide area like a small earthquake.
It was the first time the Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb or MOAB
(nicknamed Mother Of All Bombs) was used in combat operations.
The mother of all Presidents has previewed his "solution" to eradicating
ISIL (and all terrorists) - as he said on his stump speech, "we're gonna
bomb the SHIT out of 'em."
The SHIT apparently has begun.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/afghanistan-isis-moab-bomb/
A happy Steven Douglas is dancing with his regal cat tonight.

Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

Mike

2017-04-15 18:19:08 UTC

Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

Killing people is nothing to be dancing about, you warped
twisted soul!

Steven Douglas

2017-04-15 18:39:10 UTC

Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

Killing people is nothing to be dancing about, you warped
twisted soul!

Do you even know what those terrorists do to people? How else do
you think we can stop them from perpetrating their evil, you
naive and morally confused little man?

Mike

2017-04-15 18:42:15 UTC

Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

Killing people is nothing to be dancing about, you warped
twisted soul!

Do you even know what those terrorists do to people? How else do
you think we can stop them from perpetrating their evil, you
naive and morally confused little man?

Yes, they come out to spread their hate herer when others
want to enjoy the Easter weekend. You are a disgrace
to humanity and Christianity. I was just thinking of you
yesterday. I was thinking GOOD RIDDANCE!!!

Steven Douglas

2017-04-15 18:58:13 UTC

Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

Killing people is nothing to be dancing about, you warped
twisted soul!

Do you even know what those terrorists do to people? How else do
you think we can stop them from perpetrating their evil, you
naive and morally confused little man?

I notice you skipped my question about the terrorists, and
what they do to people so you could rant about me instead.
Your hate-filled obsession with me is nothing new. But it
is boring.

Mike

2017-04-15 19:04:58 UTC

Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

Killing people is nothing to be dancing about, you warped
twisted soul!

Do you even know what those terrorists do to people? How else do
you think we can stop them from perpetrating their evil, you
naive and morally confused little man?

I notice you skipped my question about the terrorists, and
what they do to people so you could rant about me instead.
Your hate-filled obsession with me is nothing new. But it
is boring.

It's the Easter weekend. I prefer to think about
chocolates and easter eggs. I don't want to think
about terrorists today, thanks. Answer your own
questions.

I just wish you would go away, hopefully for
good this time. Everyone seems to be getting
along nicely and your only purpose is to bring
conflict and disharmony.

Steven Douglas

2017-04-15 19:32:37 UTC

Post by Mike
It's the Easter weekend. I prefer to think about
chocolates and easter eggs. I don't want to think
about terrorists today, thanks. Answer your own
questions.
I just wish you would go away, hopefully for
good this time. Everyone seems to be getting
along nicely and your only purpose is to bring
conflict and disharmony.

All I did was answer a post by Doc, and you (as usual)
responded within a matter of seconds, and even though
my post was not addressed to you, your response to me
was in your typical hate-filled style -- which brought
on the conflict and harmony we're having now.

I'm really sorry for you that you're so hate-filled
and morally confused. I hope it gets better for you
someday. Happy Easter.

Mike

2017-04-15 20:22:23 UTC

All I did was answer a post by Doc, and you (as usual)
responded within a matter of seconds, and even though
my post was not addressed to you, your response to me
was in your typical hate-filled style -- which brought
on the conflict and harmony we're having now.
I'm really sorry for you that you're so hate-filled
and morally confused. I hope it gets better for you
someday. Happy Easter.

Thanks. Sick, but happy dancing!!!

Steven Douglas

2017-04-15 21:33:53 UTC

All I did was answer a post by Doc, and you (as usual)
responded within a matter of seconds, and even though
my post was not addressed to you, your response to me
was in your typical hate-filled style -- which brought
on the conflict and harmony we're having now.
I'm really sorry for you that you're so hate-filled
and morally confused. I hope it gets better for you
someday. Happy Easter.

Thanks. Sick, but happy dancing!!!

I never said I was dancing. I merely asked Doc if there's a
reason I shouldn't be, since it was Doc (not me) who said
I was dancing. Or do you actually think I was dancing with
my cat?

I'm sure Doc's statement was meant metaphorically (you can
look that word up), not literally. So just to make this clear
for you, I was not actually dancing with my cat. And while
I'm sorry there are evil people in this world, and it's a
shame they murder people in horrific ways, it's not a shame
when those evil people are no longer able to perpetrate
their evil in this world.

And if you weren't so morally confused, you'd know the
difference between actual real terrorists, and me. But
you are that morally confused, and I have no hope that
you'll ever figure it out.

Mike

2017-04-15 22:38:50 UTC

All I did was answer a post by Doc, and you (as usual)
responded within a matter of seconds, and even though
my post was not addressed to you, your response to me
was in your typical hate-filled style -- which brought
on the conflict and harmony we're having now.
I'm really sorry for you that you're so hate-filled
and morally confused. I hope it gets better for you
someday. Happy Easter.

Thanks. Sick, but happy dancing!!!

And so your response was 'metaphorical'. You were in your
glee that bombs were dropped and people were killed. You
didn't need to know anything about. You would have been
happy even if it was fabricated. All you need is an excuse
to be happy at the thought that 'enemies' were killed. You
can't really say anything about them or describe what they
did to you personally.

All you say 'terrorist' and that gives you a license to
justify the what you have in your heart already. You fall pray
to letting others to define your enemies for you. I like
to know someone before I can feel qualified to judge them.
I don't start dancing whenever I hear people are suffering
or are being killed. It doesn't matter if they are terrorists
or not. The agony of death is equally the same.

I don't like other people to create and define my enemies
for me. You on the other hand glee in pain and suffering
and desire for others to partake of 'blood sacrifices'.
It's kinda repulsive to me. That to me almost seems
Satanic.

Post by Steven Douglas
So just to make this clear
for you, I was not actually dancing with my cat. And while
I'm sorry there are evil people in this world, and it's a
shame they murder people in horrific ways, it's not a shame
when those evil people are no longer able to perpetrate
their evil in this world.

All I know is that people were killed. I have no idea what
they did, nor or anything of their moral character. None of this
information was provided. Even if it were, none of it can
be trusted. I know your president is a liar, as are all
politicians in general. I don't place my trust liars. That
is all I need as 'moral guidance'. These are your enemies
and this is your war, not mine.

Post by Steven Douglas
And if you weren't so morally confused, you'd know the
difference between actual real terrorists, and me. But
you are that morally confused, and I have no hope that
you'll ever figure it out.

I judge people when I know themn personally.
I don't know any Muslims. I have never met a
spoken to one frankly about any subjects.

You are the closest thing to a terrorist
that I have ever experienced.

Steven Douglas

2017-04-17 17:04:51 UTC

All I did was answer a post by Doc, and you (as usual)
responded within a matter of seconds, and even though
my post was not addressed to you, your response to me
was in your typical hate-filled style -- which brought
on the conflict and harmony we're having now.
I'm really sorry for you that you're so hate-filled
and morally confused. I hope it gets better for you
someday. Happy Easter.

Thanks. Sick, but happy dancing!!!

I can say a lot about them. If you weren't so intellectually
incurious, you would know something about them yourself,
without having to rely on me to inform you.

Post by Mike
All you say 'terrorist' and that gives you a license to
justify the what you have in your heart already. You fall pray
to letting others to define your enemies for you. I like
to know someone before I can feel qualified to judge them.

Thank you for admitting your ignorance on this topic. I feel
no need to discuss this further with you, since you have
yourself wrapped in a protective cocoon to shield yourself
from the harsh realities of this world.

Mike

2017-04-17 17:49:54 UTC

All I did was answer a post by Doc, and you (as usual)
responded within a matter of seconds, and even though
my post was not addressed to you, your response to me
was in your typical hate-filled style -- which brought
on the conflict and harmony we're having now.
I'm really sorry for you that you're so hate-filled
and morally confused. I hope it gets better for you
someday. Happy Easter.

Thanks. Sick, but happy dancing!!!

I can say a lot about them. If you weren't so intellectually
incurious, you would know something about them yourself,
without having to rely on me to inform you.

You are no source of information. You are'fake news'.

GOOD RIDDANCE THEN! I hope you are telling the truth
this time....

a***@yahoo.com

2017-04-17 21:56:46 UTC

All I did was answer a post by Doc, and you (as usual)
responded within a matter of seconds, and even though
my post was not addressed to you, your response to me
was in your typical hate-filled style -- which brought
on the conflict and harmony we're having now.
I'm really sorry for you that you're so hate-filled
and morally confused. I hope it gets better for you
someday. Happy Easter.

Thanks. Sick, but happy dancing!!!

I can say a lot about them. If you weren't so intellectually
incurious, you would know something about them yourself,
without having to rely on me to inform you.

You are no source of information. You are'fake news'.

MORE OF establishment RINO bush cheerleader; it campaigned heavy against trump for Jebby
#lolz

GOOD RIDDANCE THEN! I hope you are telling the truth
this time....

a***@yahoo.com

2017-04-16 08:52:58 UTC

Why u celebrate privately every nigger murdering #cracker, so #fuu

docufo

2017-04-15 23:07:30 UTC

Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

None rationally that I can think of presently, no. Nationalists like
yourself are well served by such wartime sensation. I hear about 36 ISIL
terrorists were killed by the MOAB drop. It seems a pitifully small
number. One would expect a hundred or more, considering the special
delivery package. The MOAB has been sitting around since 2003 and that
means even Bush didn't want it fielded. I wonder why? Maybe he could've
blown Bin Laden to bits with it, eh? LOL!

^Y^
v

^Y^
~

Steven Douglas

2017-04-17 17:09:01 UTC

Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

That number has since been revised upward, and that's just the
known number. There may be many more buried in those tunnels.

Headline: "'Mother of all bombs' killed 94 ISIS fighters, Afghan
official says"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/afghanistan-isis-moab-strike/

Post by docufo
One would expect a hundred or more, considering the special
delivery package. The MOAB has been sitting around since 2003 and that
means even Bush didn't want it fielded. I wonder why? Maybe he could've
blown Bin Laden to bits with it, eh? LOL!

Maybe. But then we might have never known if we got him or not.

docufo

2017-04-19 03:39:12 UTC

Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

That number has since been revised upward, and that's just the
known number. There may be many more buried in those tunnels.
Headline: "'Mother of all bombs' killed 94 ISIS fighters, Afghan
official says"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/afghanistan-isis-moab-strike/

Maybe. But then we might have never known if we got him or not.

How many ISIL/Al Qaeda personnel do you think we and our allies have
sent to Allah thus far? You know, global terrorism has steadily
increased every year through 2016 according to the FBI. We're living in
a virtual police surveillance/search state, and most have sheepishly
accepted the restrictions and outright invasions of privacy. Terrorists
affect a very tiny percentage of the public with their violence. It's
more likely your next-door homegrown neighbor or coworker represents a
greater threat. Of course, the DHS is maintaining a file on every
American "just in case."
LOL!
Terrorism will never be defeated as long as global hegemony is the
ultimate directive.
As long as there is a significant disparity between the poor in Third
World nations and the rich in the industrialized nations, there will
always be violent acts of anger and defiance.
ISIL was the latest culmination - a much more organized, well funded,
energetic popularized fanaticism that went way beyond the usual ragtag
guerilla actions of yesteryear. They won't succeed because most
certainly we can't let them have the oil fields of Iraq.
^Y^
O

Steven Douglas

2017-04-19 04:55:02 UTC

Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

That number has since been revised upward, and that's just the
known number. There may be many more buried in those tunnels.
Headline: "'Mother of all bombs' killed 94 ISIS fighters, Afghan
official says"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/afghanistan-isis-moab-strike/

Maybe. But then we might have never known if we got him or not.

How many ISIL/Al Qaeda personnel do you think we and our allies have
sent to Allah thus far? You know, global terrorism has steadily
increased every year through 2016 according to the FBI.

The growth of ISIS happened under Obama's watch. He told us they
were the "JV team". I made the mistake of believing Obama's lies,
and you mocked me for it. I never made that mistake again.

Post by docufo
We're living in
a virtual police surveillance/search state, and most have sheepishly
accepted the restrictions and outright invasions of privacy. Terrorists
affect a very tiny percentage of the public with their violence.

So we should just let it happen?

Post by docufo
It's
more likely your next-door homegrown neighbor or coworker represents a
greater threat. Of course, the DHS is maintaining a file on every
American "just in case."
LOL!
Terrorism will never be defeated as long as global hegemony is the
ultimate directive.
As long as there is a significant disparity between the poor in Third
World nations and the rich in the industrialized nations, there will
always be violent acts of anger and defiance.
ISIL was the latest culmination - a much more organized, well funded,
energetic popularized fanaticism that went way beyond the usual ragtag
guerilla actions of yesteryear. They won't succeed because most
certainly we can't let them have the oil fields of Iraq.

Your high hopes for the collapse of the Iraqi democracy are dashed.
Poor you.

docufo

2017-04-19 10:22:44 UTC

Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

That number has since been revised upward, and that's just the
known number. There may be many more buried in those tunnels.
Headline: "'Mother of all bombs' killed 94 ISIS fighters, Afghan
official says"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/afghanistan-isis-moab-strike/

Maybe. But then we might have never known if we got him or not.

How many ISIL/Al Qaeda personnel do you think we and our allies have
sent to Allah thus far? You know, global terrorism has steadily
increased every year through 2016 according to the FBI.

The growth of ISIS happened under Obama's watch. He told us they
were the "JV team". I made the mistake of believing Obama's lies,
and you mocked me for it. I never made that mistake again.

So we should just let it happen?

We don't have any choice but to keep engaging in their civil and
cross-border warfare. We're amidst ancient tribalism still prevalent but
our news media does little to explain the depth of Arab Muslim tribal
identity and old conflicts still active. We need the fossil fuels there.
Our allies need them, too. And we need to keep selling arms aplenty to
both Arab and Jew. We've got a vast, largely still untapped potentially
cheap work force and material cost to exploit there. And we need to keep
our military much in force on land, at sea and in the air to protect our
growing investments, our and our allies' blatant hegemony.
This isn't about the weeping over murdered children as Trump attempted
to have us believe - and, in fact, nearly every other post-oil embargo
US President since has presented a "humanitarian" reason for our
increasing military and commercial domination of the region.
We "liberated" Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan and now we seek to liberate
Syria. Liberation with the heavy smell of oil stinking it all up and yet
this is hardly mentioned compared to our "humanitarian cause."
A perpetual generator of wars and government make-overs to benefit our
hegemonic commitments.
We can't "let it happen" but not because of our humanitarianism as the
main driver, but our lust for oily resources to power our burgeoning
techno-industrial Disneyland, and make it plainly obvious that, in our
own words, the "leader of the free world" must be the king of all
nations, and their guiding light towards a superior life and government.
Without America, all nations will suffer if not perish! LOL! Nationalism
gone berserk, in fact, and now reinforced by Trumpism.

Your high hopes for the collapse of the Iraqi democracy are dashed.
Poor you.

The Iraqi democracy failed to effectively use the long U.S.-trained
Iraqi army (some 400,000 strong) to repel essentially a small initial
invasion force of some 7000. Saddam, in or out of his prime, with even
his post-Desert Storm airless reduced armed forces, would've pushed them
back and saved his people the horrors the new U.S.-installed Iraqi
government couldn't do.

Poor Iraqis, junior. Caught in the vise of U.S./allied hegemony,
political pawns as well. And at home, pimply-ass nationalists like
yourself beating the war drums to eradicate an enemy, terrorists, that
is actually being engendered by a failed American/allied foreign policy.
Dropping 22,000 monster bombs won't solve the terrorism conundrum.
Getting out of their wars will. And that is unlikely to happen until
alternative energies are put into major use.

^Y^
O

Steven Douglas

2017-04-20 05:28:59 UTC

Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

That number has since been revised upward, and that's just the
known number. There may be many more buried in those tunnels.
Headline: "'Mother of all bombs' killed 94 ISIS fighters, Afghan
official says"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/afghanistan-isis-moab-strike/

Maybe. But then we might have never known if we got him or not.

How many ISIL/Al Qaeda personnel do you think we and our allies have
sent to Allah thus far? You know, global terrorism has steadily
increased every year through 2016 according to the FBI.

The growth of ISIS happened under Obama's watch. He told us they
were the "JV team". I made the mistake of believing Obama's lies,
and you mocked me for it. I never made that mistake again.

So we should just let it happen?

So we have to fight wars to get the oil? Why can't we just buy
it from them? Where is all the French and German oil we should
have received after WWII? Where is all the Korean oil after
the Korean war? And where is all the Vietnamese oil after the
Vietnam war? For that matter, where is all the Iraqi oil after
that war? Oh, that's right, we have to buy it from the Iraqi
government. And we get a very small percentage of our imported
oil from Iraq. But we could have just bought it from Saddam
Hussein if their oil was so important.

Post by docufo
Our allies need them, too. And we need to keep selling arms aplenty to
both Arab and Jew.

We give them the money for that, as part of the peace deals
Jimmy Carter engineered. You have a problem with that?

Post by docufo
We've got a vast, largely still untapped potentially
cheap work force and material cost to exploit there.

You think the Israelis are a cheap work force?

Post by docufo
And we need to keep
our military much in force on land, at sea and in the air to protect our
growing investments, our and our allies' blatant hegemony.
This isn't about the weeping over murdered children as Trump attempted
to have us believe - and, in fact, nearly every other post-oil embargo
US President since has presented a "humanitarian" reason for our
increasing military and commercial domination of the region.
We "liberated" Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan and now we seek to liberate
Syria. Liberation with the heavy smell of oil stinking it all up and yet
this is hardly mentioned compared to our "humanitarian cause."

So you think Trump attacked Syria's air base for oil? Where's
the oil?

Post by docufo
A perpetual generator of wars and government make-overs to benefit our
hegemonic commitments.
We can't "let it happen" but not because of our humanitarianism as the
main driver, but our lust for oily resources

How does our support of Israel help us with that? Please explain.

Post by docufo
to power our burgeoning
techno-industrial Disneyland, and make it plainly obvious that, in our
own words, the "leader of the free world" must be the king of all
nations, and their guiding light towards a superior life and government.

I realize you prefer the tyranny of dictators. Hopefully you'll
continue to be disappointed as dictators continue to fall.

Post by docufo
Without America, all nations will suffer if not perish! LOL! Nationalism
gone berserk, in fact, and now reinforced by Trumpism.

Your high hopes for the collapse of the Iraqi democracy are dashed.
Poor you.

The Iraqi democracy failed to effectively use the long U.S.-trained
Iraqi army (some 400,000 strong) to repel essentially a small initial
invasion force of some 7000.

Wait a minute, you told me they were a real army. Now here you are
downplaying your own words, in which you mocked me for believing
the naive Obama, who said they were the "JV team".

Post by docufo
Saddam, in or out of his prime, with even
his post-Desert Storm airless reduced armed forces, would've pushed them
back and saved his people the horrors the new U.S.-installed Iraqi
government couldn't do.

Actually, the Iraqi government was able to protect Baghdad, and
now they are pushing ISIS out of Iraq. You must be crying your
eyes out over that.

Post by docufo
Poor Iraqis, junior. Caught in the vise of U.S./allied hegemony,
political pawns as well. And at home, pimply-ass nationalists like
yourself beating the war drums to eradicate an enemy, terrorists, that
is actually being engendered by a failed American/allied foreign policy.
Dropping 22,000 monster bombs won't solve the terrorism conundrum.
Getting out of their wars will. And that is unlikely to happen until
alternative energies are put into major use.

Oh, it's all about oil, I almost forgot. Of course the fact we
buy relatively little oil from Iraq does not matter to you.
You'll continue to believe your own propaganda regardless of
actual facts.

a***@yahoo.com

2017-04-20 07:04:12 UTC

Yes, Steven. Israelis should all work 4 minimum wage.

docufo

2017-04-22 05:49:55 UTC

Is there a reason I shouldn't be?

That number has since been revised upward, and that's just the
known number. There may be many more buried in those tunnels.
Headline: "'Mother of all bombs' killed 94 ISIS fighters, Afghan
official says"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/afghanistan-isis-moab-strike/

Maybe. But then we might have never known if we got him or not.

How many ISIL/Al Qaeda personnel do you think we and our allies have
sent to Allah thus far? You know, global terrorism has steadily
increased every year through 2016 according to the FBI.

The growth of ISIS happened under Obama's watch. He told us they
were the "JV team". I made the mistake of believing Obama's lies,
and you mocked me for it. I never made that mistake again.

So we should just let it happen?

Post by docufo
Our allies need them, too. And we need to keep selling arms aplenty to
both Arab and Jew.

We give them the money for that, as part of the peace deals
Jimmy Carter engineered. You have a problem with that?

Post by docufo
We've got a vast, largely still untapped potentially
cheap work force and material cost to exploit there.

You think the Israelis are a cheap work force?

So you think Trump attacked Syria's air base for oil? Where's
the oil?

How does our support of Israel help us with that? Please explain.

I realize you prefer the tyranny of dictators. Hopefully you'll
continue to be disappointed as dictators continue to fall.

Post by docufo
Without America, all nations will suffer if not perish! LOL! Nationalism
gone berserk, in fact, and now reinforced by Trumpism.

Your high hopes for the collapse of the Iraqi democracy are dashed.
Poor you.

The Iraqi democracy failed to effectively use the long U.S.-trained
Iraqi army (some 400,000 strong) to repel essentially a small initial
invasion force of some 7000.

Wait a minute, you told me they were a real army. Now here you are
downplaying your own words, in which you mocked me for believing
the naive Obama, who said they were the "JV team".

Actually, the Iraqi government was able to protect Baghdad, and
now they are pushing ISIS out of Iraq. You must be crying your
eyes out over that.

Oh, it's all about oil, I almost forgot. Of course the fact we
buy relatively little oil from Iraq does not matter to you.
You'll continue to believe your own propaganda regardless of
actual facts.

Well, I'll sum up my reply to all that malarkey you spewed at me by
informing you that it's not necessary to defend your vote for Mad Donald
nor grill me on my view since he's promised to "get rid of most of the
world's problems."

If you have faith in your chosen leader, junior, then simply believe
that he'll make the world all shiny, nice and new.

LOL!

The sale of the oil to ANY nation by Iraq, if controlled by ISIL, would
give them unlimited wealth in which to build their caliphate.

It's no wonder you "almost forgot" our hegemony in the Mideast is about
oil - it's otherwise hard to sell humanitarian warfare unless that oily
equation is closeted.

^Y^
o

Steven Douglas

2017-04-23 05:29:59 UTC

Post by docufo
Well, I'll sum up my reply to all that malarkey you spewed at me by

By dodging the points I made. I'm not surprised.

Post by docufo
informing you that it's not necessary to defend your vote for Mad Donald
nor grill me on my view since he's promised to "get rid of most of the
world's problems."
If you have faith in your chosen leader, junior, then simply believe
that he'll make the world all shiny, nice and new.
LOL!
The sale of the oil to ANY nation by Iraq, if controlled by ISIL, would
give them unlimited wealth in which to build their caliphate.

Iraq is not controlled by ISIL. ISIL is on the run these days,
or haven't you been paying attention?

Post by docufo
It's no wonder you "almost forgot" our hegemony in the Mideast is about
oil - it's otherwise hard to sell humanitarian warfare unless that oily
equation is closeted.

I realize you dodged my response to that sentiment already, but
I'm going to repeat it so you can dodge it again:

[quoting myself from a previous post in this thread, and dodged
by Doc] "So we have to fight wars to get the oil? Why can't we
just buy it from them? Where is all the French and German oil
we should have received after WWII? Where is all the Korean oil
after the Korean war? And where is all the Vietnamese oil after
the Vietnam war? For that matter, where is all the Iraqi oil
after that war? Oh, that's right, we have to buy it from the
Iraqi government. And we get a very small percentage of our
imported oil from Iraq. But we could have just bought it from
Saddam Hussein if their oil was so important." [end quote, which
Doc will dodge yet again]

docufo

2017-04-23 08:18:25 UTC

Post by docufo
Well, I'll sum up my reply to all that malarkey you spewed at me by

By dodging the points I made. I'm not surprised.

The "points' you made have been made several times earlier in similar
discussions. Refer back to your vaunted APN archives for details. But,
generally, Trump thinks invading Iraq was a fat mistake. If the musings
of that maniac have any credence. Before he became President, he kept
telling his stump crowds that he'd prefer to stay out of the internal
struggles of nations. But all it apparently took was another supposed
gassing of citizens by order of Assad and images of "beautiful babies"
suffering or dead. Yes, that's all it took to forget his oft-repeated
promise to stay out of internal wars. Oh,, that's right! I almost
forgot. He's upholding "international law" against the use of chemical
weapons. Or is it really that he wants to pump up his low approval
ratings? Or maybe he's getting heat from major oil elitists upset that
an unstable Syria might disrupt the huge oil pipeline to the
Mediterranean from Iraq? And as he worries about the plight of the
Syrian civilians, he's doing everything to keep them from seeking a
sanctuary here. It's your fanatical kind of world policy, junior. No
wonder you stop cussing and rejecting him, fell into copious
ass-licking. You lick his ass even as he grabs pussies. LOL!

Iraq is not controlled by ISIL. ISIL is on the run these days,
or haven't you been paying attention?

No, it isn't but it was in danger of losing control earlier on. The oil
cannot be ignored from any rational consideration of motives by the U.S.
and its allies to keep a military presence there, and keep interjecting
it into internal and cross-border conflicts. Even as the USA continues
to coddle the tyrants in S.A. LOL! Even as Donald cozies up to the
communist leaders of China and the likes of Putin. It's a mad, mad, mad,
mad world, junior. Watch the old Johnathan Winters-led cast in old
comedy classic movie for a good feeling of the way the world is today,
fifty years later. It's gone to the mad dogs like Donald and your
extremist self. And it's even FUN isn't it? Anything could happen at any
time - like living on the edge and not knowing what's over it.

Post by docufo
It's no wonder you "almost forgot" our hegemony in the Mideast is about
oil - it's otherwise hard to sell humanitarian warfare unless that oily
equation is closeted.

I realize you dodged my response to that sentiment already, but
[quoting myself from a previous post in this thread, and dodged
by Doc] "So we have to fight wars to get the oil? Why can't we
just buy it from them? Where is all the French and German oil
we should have received after WWII? Where is all the Korean oil
after the Korean war? And where is all the Vietnamese oil after
the Vietnam war? For that matter, where is all the Iraqi oil
after that war? Oh, that's right, we have to buy it from the
Iraqi government. And we get a very small percentage of our
imported oil from Iraq. But we could have just bought it from
Saddam Hussein if their oil was so important." [end quote, which
Doc will dodge yet again]

Making sure that Middle Eastern governments give us the best per barrel
price and keep it all flowing smoothly, give us access, it's necessary
to ensure those governments don't oppose us in any manner greater than
the usual propaganda and "sanctions."

And if it's not fossil fuel resources, it's other strategic reasons for
having favorable governments that accept our nice hegemony due to mutual
financial and power needs.

But you should know all that, junior. If you were an honest debater.
Which you've never been.

^Y^
V

Steven Douglas

2017-04-23 19:45:52 UTC

Post by docufo
Well, I'll sum up my reply to all that malarkey you spewed at me by

By dodging the points I made. I'm not surprised.

Your wacky conspiracy theories make you look ridiculous.

Post by docufo
And as he worries about the plight of the
Syrian civilians, he's doing everything to keep them from seeking a
sanctuary here.

Did you miss the guy on CNN, who praised Trump when the CNN
interviewer expected him to criticize Trump? The guy said the
refugees don't want to come here, they want to go home. They
want Trump to help them get rid of Assad. Of course you love
Assad, and hope we do nothing to remove him from office.

Post by docufo
It's your fanatical kind of world policy, junior. No
wonder you stop cussing and rejecting him, fell into copious

You are repulsive.

<snip Doc's repulsive and classless language>

Iraq is not controlled by ISIL. ISIL is on the run these days,
or haven't you been paying attention?

No, it isn't

You're an ignoramus.

Post by docufo
but it was in danger of losing control earlier on. The oil
cannot be ignored from any rational consideration of motives by the U.S.
and its allies to keep a military presence there, and keep interjecting
it into internal and cross-border conflicts. Even as the USA continues
to coddle the tyrants in S.A. LOL! Even as Donald cozies up to the
communist leaders of China and the likes of Putin. It's a mad, mad, mad,
mad world, junior.

Yes, and if you had your way evil would rule the world with no
opposition.

Post by docufo
Watch the old Johnathan Winters-led cast in old
comedy classic movie for a good feeling of the way the world is today,
fifty years later. It's gone to the mad dogs like Donald and your
extremist self. And it's even FUN isn't it? Anything could happen at any
time - like living on the edge and not knowing what's over it.

Obama made things worse during his eight years. Someone has
to fix it.

Post by docufo
It's no wonder you "almost forgot" our hegemony in the Mideast is about
oil - it's otherwise hard to sell humanitarian warfare unless that oily
equation is closeted.

We get most of our imported oil from Canada and Mexico. The
amount of oil we get from the Middle East keeps dwindling
every year. It's not the great amount that you seem to think
it is.

Post by docufo
And if it's not fossil fuel resources, it's other strategic reasons for
having favorable governments that accept our nice hegemony due to mutual
financial and power needs.

What is our interest in Israel, then? Why are they our ally,
when some of the oil producing nations in the Middle East
hate Israel and want it eliminated from the map?

Post by docufo
But you should know all that, junior. If you were an honest debater.
Which you've never been.

Oh the irony!!! You're a laugh a minute, but not in the way
you'd like to think you are.

docufo

2017-04-25 01:11:06 UTC

Post by docufo
Well, I'll sum up my reply to all that malarkey you spewed at me by

By dodging the points I made. I'm not surprised.

Your wacky conspiracy theories make you look ridiculous.

Post by docufo
And as he worries about the plight of the
Syrian civilians, he's doing everything to keep them from seeking a
sanctuary here.

Post by docufo
It's your fanatical kind of world policy, junior. No
wonder you stop cussing and rejecting him, fell into copious

You are repulsive.
<snip Doc's repulsive and classless language>

Iraq is not controlled by ISIL. ISIL is on the run these days,
or haven't you been paying attention?

No, it isn't

You're an ignoramus.

Yes, and if you had your way evil would rule the world with no
opposition.

Obama made things worse during his eight years. Someone has
to fix it.

Post by docufo
It's no wonder you "almost forgot" our hegemony in the Mideast is about
oil - it's otherwise hard to sell humanitarian warfare unless that oily
equation is closeted.

We get most of our imported oil from Canada and Mexico. The
amount of oil we get from the Middle East keeps dwindling
every year. It's not the great amount that you seem to think
it is.

Post by docufo
And if it's not fossil fuel resources, it's other strategic reasons for
having favorable governments that accept our nice hegemony due to mutual
financial and power needs.

What is our interest in Israel, then? Why are they our ally,
when some of the oil producing nations in the Middle East
hate Israel and want it eliminated from the map?

Post by docufo
But you should know all that, junior. If you were an honest debater.
Which you've never been.

Oh the irony!!! You're a laugh a minute, but not in the way
you'd like to think you are.

You attempt to argue your "rational" (!) points but your support for a
character like Trump undermines it all. And laughably, albeit tragically.

You railed against him from the beginning. Even as early as 2012 in this
forum you dismissed his first-run Presidency stumping. And a few years
later, you refused to accept his candidacy as anything serious and/or
beneficial to the GOP, if not the nation.

LOL! And now you wish to complain about what's "ridiculous" and
"ignorant" and "repulsive" about my view - you could just as easily
define your Trump the same.

You've been a champion of assholish, stupid, and fanatical political
characters for many years, having defended the mad bloody messes Bush
created in the Mideast, and even defending the gross idiocy of pigeon
brained things like Sarah Palin. LOL!!

You hated Obama for his ineptness, his "amateur" Presidency, his
"lies," ad nauseum -- ironically, the traits of Donald J. Trump! And
your contempt for Obama's supposed timidity with the use of our military
(as in the Syrian gassing incident 4 years ago) to "punish" the
wrongdoers of the planet. Well, now, you got the "big stick" talker in
office, but not the walker. His claim to positioning the Carl Vinson
battle group in a defensive posture to possibly shoot down a N. Korean
test missile was false.

One big fucking mess after another with Trump. If you don't like my
language, then do your infamous mass snipping. If you hear Trump saying
he wants to grab another pussy, turn it off immediately, junior. I
wouldn't want your Boy Scout smores to over bake.

^Y^
U

Steven Douglas

2017-04-25 14:19:21 UTC

Post by docufo
Well, I'll sum up my reply to all that malarkey you spewed at me by

By dodging the points I made. I'm not surprised.

Your wacky conspiracy theories make you look ridiculous.

Post by docufo
And as he worries about the plight of the
Syrian civilians, he's doing everything to keep them from seeking a
sanctuary here.

Post by docufo
It's your fanatical kind of world policy, junior. No
wonder you stop cussing and rejecting him, fell into copious

You are repulsive.
<snip Doc's repulsive and classless language>

Iraq is not controlled by ISIL. ISIL is on the run these days,
or haven't you been paying attention?

No, it isn't

You're an ignoramus.

Yes, and if you had your way evil would rule the world with no
opposition.

Obama made things worse during his eight years. Someone has
to fix it.

Post by docufo
It's no wonder you "almost forgot" our hegemony in the Mideast is about
oil - it's otherwise hard to sell humanitarian warfare unless that oily
equation is closeted.

We get most of our imported oil from Canada and Mexico. The
amount of oil we get from the Middle East keeps dwindling
every year. It's not the great amount that you seem to think
it is.

Post by docufo
And if it's not fossil fuel resources, it's other strategic reasons for
having favorable governments that accept our nice hegemony due to mutual
financial and power needs.

What is our interest in Israel, then? Why are they our ally,
when some of the oil producing nations in the Middle East
hate Israel and want it eliminated from the map?

Post by docufo
But you should know all that, junior. If you were an honest debater.
Which you've never been.

Oh the irony!!! You're a laugh a minute, but not in the way
you'd like to think you are.

He was not my first choice for nominee, but it's likely my choice
would not have won the presidency. Trump did. Meanwhile, you did
not support Hillary Clinton, but if she had won you'd be here
supporting her against any criticism I'd be giving her.

Post by docufo
And now you wish to complain about what's "ridiculous" and
"ignorant" and "repulsive" about my view -

It's not your "view" that's repulsive, it's your use of crude
language (while exposing your sexual fantasies here) that is
repulsive.

Post by docufo
you could just as easily define your Trump the same.

So you're saying you're no different than Trump?

Post by docufo
You've been a champion of assholish, stupid, and fanatical political
characters for many years, having defended the mad bloody messes Bush
created in the Mideast,

With the help of Clinton's CIA director, and all those Democrats
in Congress who voted to authorize the war in Iraq. But one good
thing did come from it, and that's the fact that Saddam Hussein
and his sons are no longer running Iraq

and even defending the gross idiocy of pigeon

Post by docufo
brained things like Sarah Palin.

I love that you're so obsessed with Palin! I love it every time
you mention her. She must own a lot of space in your brain.

Post by docufo
You hated Obama for his ineptness, his "amateur" Presidency, his
"lies," ad nauseum -- ironically, the traits of Donald J. Trump! And
your contempt for Obama's supposed timidity with the use of our military
(as in the Syrian gassing incident 4 years ago) to "punish" the
wrongdoers of the planet. Well, now, you got the "big stick" talker in
office, but not the walker. His claim to positioning the Carl Vinson
battle group in a defensive posture to possibly shoot down a N. Korean
test missile was false.
One big fucking mess after another with Trump. If you don't like my
language, then do your infamous mass snipping. If you hear Trump saying
he wants to grab another pussy, turn it off immediately, junior. I
wouldn't want your Boy Scout smores to over bake.
^Y^
U

Steven Douglas

2017-04-25 14:27:13 UTC

It was Obama who drew his famous "red line" that he showed was
nothing but a bluff, because he lacked the courage to follow
through and back up his big words. Obama made this country weak,
which is exactly the way you (and all your foreign friends) like
it. Trump is standing strong, and of course you (and all your
foreign friends) are going to hate that.

Post by docufo
Well, now, you got the "big stick" talker in
office, but not the walker. His claim to positioning the Carl Vinson
battle group in a defensive posture to possibly shoot down a N. Korean
test missile was false.

First you cried about Trump's saber rattling, and now you cry
because he moved the ships away? Make up your mind.

And since when do you think you need to be apprised of the
movement of ships? I think it's great the way he's keeping
that jerk dictator in North Korea off balance. That missile
they tried to launch blew up immediately after launch. Some
people think we did that by hacking into their operations
systems, and hitting the auto-destruct button. If you found
out that were the case, would it make you cry?

docufo

2017-04-26 04:48:10 UTC

First you cried about Trump's saber rattling, and now you cry
because he moved the ships away? Make up your mind.
And since when do you think you need to be apprised of the
movement of ships? I think it's great the way he's keeping
that jerk dictator in North Korea off balance. That missile
they tried to launch blew up immediately after launch. Some
people think we did that by hacking into their operations
systems, and hitting the auto-destruct button. If you found
out that were the case, would it make you cry?

The "jerk" and the "dictator" are laughably embodied by you and Trump,,
respectively.

You didn't like Obama for not going ahead with the cruise missile show
against Assad and the S.A. At least, Obama had them readied.

Trump's armada wasn't even in the far neighborhood of the Korean
peninsula. LOLol! My, my! Trump, Pence, Mad Dog, Tillerson were claiming
the Carl Vinson was positioning 300 miles off the shore for possible
action.

OH, but NOW, apparently with the Navy getting its bearings oiled, it's
sailing there to intimidate Jong-un - hopefully, get him to overreact
and then use that as a pretext to put on a helluva fireworks show to,
maybe, just maybe, get Trump's historically record-low approval rating
up a few notches.

Never mind the millions of South and North innocent people caught in a
risky obvious political maneuver which is tantamount to a glory-hunting
gunslinger coming to town to challenge the psychotic fast-trigger
Sheriff! Naaah! Just bury them quickly and move on, eh? Shall our armada
sail next to the Strait of Hormuz and poke at their leaders?

^Y^
~

Steven Douglas

2017-04-26 18:39:40 UTC

First you cried about Trump's saber rattling, and now you cry
because he moved the ships away? Make up your mind.
And since when do you think you need to be apprised of the
movement of ships? I think it's great the way he's keeping
that jerk dictator in North Korea off balance. That missile
they tried to launch blew up immediately after launch. Some
people think we did that by hacking into their operations
systems, and hitting the auto-destruct button. If you found
out that were the case, would it make you cry?

The "jerk" and the "dictator" are laughably embodied by you and Trump,,
respectively.

You can't even let my insult of the North Korean dictator stand.
You must deflect from it and make it about someone else. That
shows just how much you love evil dictators like the one they
have in North Korea. Why do you love evil dictators so much?

Post by docufo
You didn't like Obama for not going ahead with the cruise missile show
against Assad and the S.A. At least, Obama had them readied.

Obama demonstrated weakness. Trump is demonstrating strength.
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Post by docufo
Trump's armada wasn't even in the far neighborhood of the Korean
peninsula. LOLol! My, my! Trump, Pence, Mad Dog, Tillerson were claiming
the Carl Vinson was positioning 300 miles off the shore for possible
action.

There was a misunderstanding, based on a press release from the
Pacific Command that was misinterpreted by the media and some
members of the government. But it's okay now:

Headline: "U.S. defense officials may have spoken too soon,
but Trump’s missing ‘armada’ finally heading to Korea"

[excerpt] It appears the confusion over its whereabouts
stemmed from a U.S. Pacific Command announcement that
“could have been worded a little more clearly,” in the
words of a defense official speaking on the condition of
anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the
record.

On April 9, the Pacific Command announced that the strike
group was heading to the “Western Pacific,” even as a
spokesman for the Pacific Command linked the move directly
to North Korea’s “reckless, irresponsible and destabilizing
program of missile tests and pursuit of a nuclear weapons
capability.”

Days later, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis told reporters
that the Carl Vinson was “on her way up there.” In an
interview that aired April 12, President Trump said the
United States was sending ships. “An armada, very
powerful,” he said.

They were not exactly wrong, Navy officials now say.
It’s just that the change of course toward the Korean
Peninsula had not happened yet. [end excerpt]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/trumps-missing-armada-finally-heading-to-korea--and-may-stay-a-while/2017/04/19/734ac5e7-ad0c-4395-9cfe-43a9596dca7b_story.html?utm_term=.12918697ee25

Post by docufo
OH, but NOW, apparently with the Navy getting its bearings oiled, it's
sailing there to intimidate Jong-un - hopefully, get him to overreact
and then use that as a pretext to put on a helluva fireworks show to,
maybe, just maybe, get Trump's historically record-low approval rating
up a few notches.
Never mind the millions of South and North innocent people caught in a
risky obvious political maneuver which is tantamount to a glory-hunting
gunslinger coming to town to challenge the psychotic fast-trigger
Sheriff! Naaah! Just bury them quickly and move on, eh? Shall our armada
sail next to the Strait of Hormuz and poke at their leaders?

Or should we cower in fear the way we did under the weakling
Obama?

Mike

2017-04-26 19:08:23 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

Steven Douglas

2017-04-26 20:17:15 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you. I've always
wished you good health, a long life, and prosperity. You
have wished me dead. What you think of me is meaningless
to me at this point.

Mike

2017-04-26 20:38:52 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

Post by Steven Douglas
I've always
wished you good health, a long life, and prosperity. You
have wished me dead. What you think of me is meaningless
to me at this point.

I don't need you 'wishes of good health'. I'm happy
with whatever life span God wants to give me. I'm already
as 'prosperous' as I want to be. When I need more then
I will *CREATE* it.

Instead of your 'wishes', I eat good food, and laugh often.
Self responsibly will go much further than your
feigned 'wishes' of whatever. Now one might wonder
why you need to wish health on someone who is
already healthy. Why do you wish prosperity on someone
who has stated they already have all they need?

Instead of 'wishing' stuff for me, why don't you DO
for someone else instead? The other Michael has indicated
he is in need. You live in his area and you are both
Christians. Isn't that a better way to spend your
'well intentions' rather than wasting them all on me?

Steven Douglas

2017-04-27 05:03:48 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

That's because you're a hateful little man. I really hope
your raging hatred isn't eating you alive.

Post by Steven Douglas
I've always
wished you good health, a long life, and prosperity. You
have wished me dead. What you think of me is meaningless
to me at this point.

Probably for the same reason you wish me dead. I wish for
your continued good health, while you wish me dead because
you're such a hateful little man.

Post by Mike
Why do you wish prosperity on someone
who has stated they already have all they need?

Probably for the same reason you want to flush me down the
toilet, except I'm wishing good things for you while you're
wishing bad things for me. That's because you're an angry
and bitterly hateful little man.

Post by Mike
Instead of 'wishing' stuff for me, why don't you DO
for someone else instead? The other Michael has indicated
he is in need.

Michael has indicated that he wants nothing to do with me. I'm
not going to force myself on him.

Post by Mike
You live in his area

I live in his area in about the same way you live in Doc's
area.

Post by Mike
and you are both
Christians. Isn't that a better way to spend your
'well intentions' rather than wasting them all on me?

They're not intentions, they're simply good wishes. But then
you're so full of hate that you don't know what it's like to
feel good wishes for someone.

Mike

2017-04-27 06:15:56 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

That's because you're a hateful little man. I really hope
your raging hatred isn't eating you alive.

Is God not an angry and jealous God? Or did the Jewish
priests change that too?

Deuteronomy 6:15
For the LORD your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land.

I think you're lying as usual. Yo glee in the thought
actually. God gave us emotions for a reason, probably
because he has similar emotions himself.

Post by Steven Douglas
I've always
wished you good health, a long life, and prosperity. You
have wished me dead. What you think of me is meaningless
to me at this point.

Probably for the same reason you wish me dead. I wish for
your continued good health, while you wish me dead because
you're such a hateful little man.

I have some doubts that just wishing is going to make you
get squashed by a truck. Nor nor do I really belief your
wishes will have any positive effect, even if you were
telling the truth.

Post by Mike
Why do you wish prosperity on someone
who has stated they already have all they need?

Post by Mike
Instead of 'wishing' stuff for me, why don't you DO
for someone else instead? The other Michael has indicated
he is in need.

Michael has indicated that he wants nothing to do with me. I'm
not going to force myself on him.

I'm sure he would welcome you, if you came by with
some cash.

Post by Mike
You live in his area

I live in his area in about the same way you live in Doc's
area.

I would help Doc, just like I helped JTEM even though
he wasn't even in my area. Besides no one has suggested
Doc needs anything from me. Nor has it been established
if I have anything to give him.

Post by Mike
and you are both
Christians. Isn't that a better way to spend your
'well intentions' rather than wasting them all on me?

They're not intentions, they're simply good wishes. But then
you're so full of hate that you don't know what it's like to
feel good wishes for someone.

If I want to help someone I *DO*, if I don't want to help
them I *DON'T*. Why would I send good wish to someone
I couldn't even bother to help?

Steven Douglas

2017-04-27 15:49:38 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

That's because you're a hateful little man. I really hope
your raging hatred isn't eating you alive.

Is God not an angry and jealous God?

You're not God. You're a human being, and human beings can
be eaten alive by anger and hatred.

Post by Mike
Or did the Jewish priests change that too?

Change what? I didn't say they changed anything.

Post by Mike
Deuteronomy 6:15
For the LORD your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land.

That's the difference between God and you. God's anger can
burn against us, but your anger only burns against yourself.

Post by Mike
I think you're lying as usual. Yo glee in the thought
actually. God gave us emotions for a reason, probably
because he has similar emotions himself.

Since you're such an expert on the Bible, you know that God
says His thoughts are not our thoughts, nor are our ways His
ways. I don't even have to give you the chapter and verse
for that, because you already know it -- because you know
everything.

Post by Steven Douglas
I've always
wished you good health, a long life, and prosperity. You
have wished me dead. What you think of me is meaningless
to me at this point.

Probably for the same reason you wish me dead. I wish for
your continued good health, while you wish me dead because
you're such a hateful little man.

I have some doubts that just wishing is going to make you
get squashed by a truck. Nor nor do I really belief your
wishes will have any positive effect, even if you were
telling the truth.

Good wishes have a positive effect on me. They also have a
positive effect on most people, unless they're so filled
with hatred that they can't see beyond their own selfish
feelings.

Post by Mike
Why do you wish prosperity on someone
who has stated they already have all they need?

Post by Mike
Instead of 'wishing' stuff for me, why don't you DO
for someone else instead? The other Michael has indicated
he is in need.

Michael has indicated that he wants nothing to do with me. I'm
not going to force myself on him.

I'm sure he would welcome you, if you came by with
some cash.

Are you saying he can be bought? What good do you think it
would do him to have some temporary cash that will ultimately
leave him in exactly the same condition he's now in?

Post by Mike
You live in his area

I live in his area in about the same way you live in Doc's
area.

I would help Doc,

That wasn't my point. You seem to think Michael lives
just around the corner from me, and that's not the case.

Post by Mike
just like I helped JTEM even though
he wasn't even in my area.

You already explained your motives for that, and it wasn't
the selfless act you're now pretending it was.

Post by Mike
Besides no one has suggested
Doc needs anything from me.

I said nothing of the sort.

Post by Mike
Nor has it been established
if I have anything to give him.

Where has it been established that I have some extra cash
to give to Michael? In your imagination?

Post by Mike
and you are both
Christians. Isn't that a better way to spend your
'well intentions' rather than wasting them all on me?

They're not intentions, they're simply good wishes. But then
you're so full of hate that you don't know what it's like to
feel good wishes for someone.

If I want to help someone I *DO*, if I don't want to help
them I *DON'T*. Why would I send good wish to someone
I couldn't even bother to help?

Because good wishes do help. Negativity and hatred don't
help. But I don't expect someone as engulfed in hatred as
you are to understand that.

Mike

2017-04-27 16:32:44 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

That's because you're a hateful little man. I really hope
your raging hatred isn't eating you alive.

Is God not an angry and jealous God?

You're not God. You're a human being, and human beings can
be eaten alive by anger and hatred.

Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Psalm 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

John 10:34
Jesus replied, "Is it not written in your Law: 'I have said you are gods' ?

Post by Mike
Or did the Jewish priests change that too?

Change what? I didn't say they changed anything.

So you/they still believe believe God is angry and
Jealous?

Post by Mike
Deuteronomy 6:15
For the LORD your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land.

That's the difference between God and you. God's anger can
burn against us, but your anger only burns against yourself.

Why then am I still standing? Why don't I feel the
'burning'? Speaking from experience, are we?

Post by Mike
I think you're lying as usual. Yo glee in the thought
actually. God gave us emotions for a reason, probably
because he has similar emotions himself.

In other words, you know *NOTHING* about God !!!!

Post by Steven Douglas
I've always
wished you good health, a long life, and prosperity. You
have wished me dead. What you think of me is meaningless
to me at this point.

Probably for the same reason you wish me dead. I wish for
your continued good health, while you wish me dead because
you're such a hateful little man.

I have some doubts that just wishing is going to make you
get squashed by a truck. Nor nor do I really belief your
wishes will have any positive effect, even if you were
telling the truth.

Good wishes have a positive effect on me. They also have a
positive effect on most people, unless they're so filled
with hatred that they can't see beyond their own selfish
feelings.

Then you must not get many good wishes at all
because I've seen NOTHING POSITIVE about you.

Post by Mike
Why do you wish prosperity on someone
who has stated they already have all they need?

Post by Mike
Instead of 'wishing' stuff for me, why don't you DO
for someone else instead? The other Michael has indicated
he is in need.

Michael has indicated that he wants nothing to do with me. I'm
not going to force myself on him.

I'm sure he would welcome you, if you came by with
some cash.

Are you saying he can be bought? What good do you think it
would do him to have some temporary cash that will ultimately
leave him in exactly the same condition he's now in?

How do you know that for sure? If I give a couple dollars
to a bigger I don't make it my concern how they are
going to spend it. I know they might spend it on
drugs or cigarettes. Anyone who is hungry enjoys
a meal, or even smoking a cigarette, for those who smoke.
When I give it's always UNCONDITIONAL.

Post by Mike
You live in his area

I live in his area in about the same way you live in Doc's
area.

I would help Doc,

That wasn't my point. You seem to think Michael lives
just around the corner from me, and that's not the case.

Post by Mike
just like I helped JTEM even though
he wasn't even in my area.

You already explained your motives for that, and it wasn't
the selfless act you're now pretending it was.

What do you suggest I got from him for doing it then?

Post by Mike
Besides no one has suggested
Doc needs anything from me.

I said nothing of the sort.

Post by Mike
Nor has it been established
if I have anything to give him.

Where has it been established that I have some extra cash
to give to Michael? In your imagination?

It was only a suggestion to see how you will response.
Nothing is 'established' with you anyhow. I don't
even know you name or even if you are a real person.
You like to shrouded yourself in much mystery.

Post by Mike
and you are both
Christians. Isn't that a better way to spend your
'well intentions' rather than wasting them all on me?

They're not intentions, they're simply good wishes. But then
you're so full of hate that you don't know what it's like to
feel good wishes for someone.

Most of us have had the experience of being
victimized by another misdirected 'good wishes'.
My Aunt in Los Angeles wished me well when she
wanted to turn me straight to. I don't waste
my time wishing for others, because they can
just as easily wish for themselves.

Post by Mike
If I want to help someone I *DO*, if I don't want to help
them I *DON'T*. Why would I send good wish to someone
I couldn't even bother to help?

Because good wishes do help. Negativity and hatred don't
help. But I don't expect someone as engulfed in hatred as
you are to understand that.

Can you be more specific about how your wishes have
helped me and what I'm supposed to be feeling from
your 'good wishes' for me? For all the good wishes
you've sent so far, I still don't feel anything
or seen anything manifest just yet. How will I
know when they have helped?

Steven Douglas

2017-04-27 17:54:52 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

That's because you're a hateful little man. I really hope
your raging hatred isn't eating you alive.

Is God not an angry and jealous God?

You're not God. You're a human being, and human beings can
be eaten alive by anger and hatred.

Genesis 1:26
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over
the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth,
and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Psalm 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
John 10:34
Jesus replied, "Is it not written in your Law: 'I have said you are gods' ?

Context is everything, and you're taking some things out of context.
For example, in the first verse of the Psalm you cited, it says:
"God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the
'gods'".

God renders judgment over all of us, even if he considers us "gods".
You're also ignoring the verse in the Bible that says our ways are
not God's ways.

Post by Mike
Or did the Jewish priests change that too?

Change what? I didn't say they changed anything.

So you/they still believe believe God is angry and
Jealous?

God's anger and jealously are not the same as our anger and
jealousy. Our ways are not His ways. Stop trying to draw a
comparison between God's ways and our ways.

Post by Mike
Deuteronomy 6:15
For the LORD your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and
his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from
the face of the land.

That's the difference between God and you. God's anger can
burn against us, but your anger only burns against yourself.

Why then am I still standing? Why don't I feel the
'burning'?

I suspect you do. It's in the form of the hatred you're carrying
around with you on a daily basis. Maybe you'd just accustomed to
it, and you don't notice the negative effect it's having on you.

Post by Mike
Speaking from experience, are we?

No, I don't carry hatred around with me the way you do.

Post by Mike
I think you're lying as usual. Yo glee in the thought
actually. God gave us emotions for a reason, probably
because he has similar emotions himself.

In other words, you know *NOTHING* about God !!!!

I know what He has chosen to reveal about Himself.

Post by Steven Douglas
I've always
wished you good health, a long life, and prosperity. You
have wished me dead. What you think of me is meaningless
to me at this point.

Probably for the same reason you wish me dead. I wish for
your continued good health, while you wish me dead because
you're such a hateful little man.

I have some doubts that just wishing is going to make you
get squashed by a truck. Nor nor do I really belief your
wishes will have any positive effect, even if you were
telling the truth.

Good wishes have a positive effect on me. They also have a
positive effect on most people, unless they're so filled
with hatred that they can't see beyond their own selfish
feelings.

Then you must not get many good wishes at all
because I've seen NOTHING POSITIVE about you.

You know nothing about me.

Post by Mike
Why do you wish prosperity on someone
who has stated they already have all they need?

Post by Mike
Instead of 'wishing' stuff for me, why don't you DO
for someone else instead? The other Michael has indicated
he is in need.

Michael has indicated that he wants nothing to do with me. I'm
not going to force myself on him.

I'm sure he would welcome you, if you came by with
some cash.

Are you saying he can be bought? What good do you think it
would do him to have some temporary cash that will ultimately
leave him in exactly the same condition he's now in?

Wow, you're in denial about yourself. There was nothing
unconditional about what you gave to JTEM. You made sure to
do it as publicly as you could, because you wanted to appear
before the group as some magnanimous giver of things. If
your motives had truly been selfless and unconditional,
you would have done it behind he scenes, without making
a big production of it for all to see.

Additionally, if your giving had truly been selfless and
unconditional, you would not have cared that he wasn't as
grateful as you expected him to be -- and you would not
have tried to embarrass him publicly for being ungrateful.
So you may be fooling yourself about your motives for
giving, but you're not fooling me.

Post by Mike
You live in his area

I live in his area in about the same way you live in Doc's
area.

I would help Doc,

That wasn't my point. You seem to think Michael lives
just around the corner from me, and that's not the case.

Post by Mike
just like I helped JTEM even though
he wasn't even in my area.

You already explained your motives for that, and it wasn't
the selfless act you're now pretending it was.

What do you suggest I got from him for doing it then?

There it is right there -- you were expecting something from
him, while you're telling me your giving is unconditional.
You were expecting effusive praise and gratitude, all to
be seen by those of us who read this group. You failed to
get what you wanted, and you expressed your disappointment
for all to see.

Post by Mike
Besides no one has suggested
Doc needs anything from me.

I said nothing of the sort.

Post by Mike
Nor has it been established
if I have anything to give him.

Where has it been established that I have some extra cash
to give to Michael? In your imagination?

That's right. I'm not here to put on a public show for
you or anyone. If that's your style, have at it. But don't
expect me to be like you.

Post by Mike
and you are both
Christians. Isn't that a better way to spend your
'well intentions' rather than wasting them all on me?

They're not intentions, they're simply good wishes. But then
you're so full of hate that you don't know what it's like to
feel good wishes for someone.

Except you do wish death or ill health on people. That's
because of all that hatred you're carrying around with
you.

Post by Mike
If I want to help someone I *DO*, if I don't want to help
them I *DON'T*. Why would I send good wish to someone
I couldn't even bother to help?

Because good wishes do help. Negativity and hatred don't
help. But I don't expect someone as engulfed in hatred as
you are to understand that.

Maybe you never will. You'd have to be open to it first of
all, and probably shed all that bitterness and hatred that
has you all bogged down.

Mike

2017-04-27 19:26:59 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

That's because you're a hateful little man. I really hope
your raging hatred isn't eating you alive.

Is God not an angry and jealous God?

You're not God. You're a human being, and human beings can
be eaten alive by anger and hatred.

Context is everything, and you're taking some things out of context.

The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention and
there is no way to be sure if the stories
are true or, if they were even arranged
in the proper chronological order. Your
reference to contest is irrelevant.

Post by Steven Douglas
"God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the
'gods'".
God renders judgment over all of us, even if he considers us "gods".
You're also ignoring the verse in the Bible that says our ways are
not God's ways.

Speak for yourself my friend. My ways are NOT your ways, so
I resent your use of the word 'our'. Everyone is
is unique.

Post by Mike
Or did the Jewish priests change that too?

Change what? I didn't say they changed anything.

So you/they still believe believe God is angry and
Jealous?

God's anger and jealously are not the same as our anger and
jealousy. Our ways are not His ways. Stop trying to draw a
comparison between God's ways and our ways.

Post by Mike
Deuteronomy 6:15
For the LORD your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and
his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from
the face of the land.

That's the difference between God and you. God's anger can
burn against us, but your anger only burns against yourself.

Why then am I still standing? Why don't I feel the
'burning'?

I suspect you do. It's in the form of the hatred you're carrying
around with you on a daily basis. Maybe you'd just accustomed to
it, and you don't notice the negative effect it's having on you.

Post by Mike
Speaking from experience, are we?

No, I don't carry hatred around with me the way you do.

Post by Mike
I think you're lying as usual. Yo glee in the thought
actually. God gave us emotions for a reason, probably
because he has similar emotions himself.

In other words, you know *NOTHING* about God !!!!

I know what He has chosen to reveal about Himself.

Post by Steven Douglas
I've always
wished you good health, a long life, and prosperity. You
have wished me dead. What you think of me is meaningless
to me at this point.

Probably for the same reason you wish me dead. I wish for
your continued good health, while you wish me dead because
you're such a hateful little man.

I have some doubts that just wishing is going to make you
get squashed by a truck. Nor nor do I really belief your
wishes will have any positive effect, even if you were
telling the truth.

Good wishes have a positive effect on me. They also have a
positive effect on most people, unless they're so filled
with hatred that they can't see beyond their own selfish
feelings.

Then you must not get many good wishes at all
because I've seen NOTHING POSITIVE about you.

You know nothing about me.

Post by Mike
Why do you wish prosperity on someone
who has stated they already have all they need?

Post by Mike
Instead of 'wishing' stuff for me, why don't you DO
for someone else instead? The other Michael has indicated
he is in need.

Michael has indicated that he wants nothing to do with me. I'm
not going to force myself on him.

I'm sure he would welcome you, if you came by with
some cash.

Are you saying he can be bought? What good do you think it
would do him to have some temporary cash that will ultimately
leave him in exactly the same condition he's now in?

It was unconditional to Him. That doesn't mean it was
unconditional to you or even to myself. I was upfront
and straight forward about my expectations. I told
him it was not a manipulation but just a gift, that
I did not expect him to treat me special because of it,
and he hasn't. The main reason I wanted to do it publicly
is because I didn't really trust him. I wondered what would
happen if he said he didn't get it. I wanted to protect
myself from being insulted. What restrictions/conditions/expectations
do you believe I placed on him in return? He even offered
to give me credits in his movie and give me a nice title
too. I gracefully declined because I did not need or
desire that as payment.

Post by Steven Douglas
Additionally, if your giving had truly been selfless and
unconditional, you would not have cared that he wasn't as
grateful as you expected him to be -- and you would not

You are misunderstanding things. I don't care that he
didn't outright say thanks. It was stated just as a
fact, not an expectation but simply as a point of
observation.

Post by Steven Douglas
have tried to embarrass him publicly for being ungrateful.
So you may be fooling yourself about your motives for
giving, but you're not fooling me.

We both try to 'embarrass' each other often. It
was happening before the gift and has continued
after. What are you suggesting I made different
after the gift was given?

Post by Mike
You live in his area

I live in his area in about the same way you live in Doc's
area.

I would help Doc,

That wasn't my point. You seem to think Michael lives
just around the corner from me, and that's not the case.

Post by Mike
just like I helped JTEM even though
he wasn't even in my area.

You already explained your motives for that, and it wasn't
the selfless act you're now pretending it was.

What do you suggest I got from him for doing it then?

In truth, I didn't want to start a private communication
with him through email. I told him so. He asked in public.
I had to answer in public. I don't generally give
my email or address to anyone. How do you suggest I should
have done it?

Post by Mike
Besides no one has suggested
Doc needs anything from me.

I said nothing of the sort.

Post by Mike
Nor has it been established
if I have anything to give him.

Where has it been established that I have some extra cash
to give to Michael? In your imagination?

That's right. I'm not here to put on a public show for
you or anyone. If that's your style, have at it. But don't
expect me to be like you.

If you are not here to be public I'm cant
quite see how you are achieving that. If you
post in a public group how can you avoid
being a 'show'? You're really not making
much sense here.

Post by Mike
and you are both
Christians. Isn't that a better way to spend your
'well intentions' rather than wasting them all on me?

They're not intentions, they're simply good wishes. But then
you're so full of hate that you don't know what it's like to
feel good wishes for someone.

Except you do wish death or ill health on people. That's
because of all that hatred you're carrying around with
you.

I see nothing wrong with wishing on those who you think
deserve it. All the other British believe the same as I?
Have you ever read the words of the British
national anthem?

'O Lord our God arise,
Scatter our enemies
And make them fall;
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix,
God save us all'

Besides, wishing is a far stretch
from doing. I wish I could see a
Sasquatch, but that doesn't mean
I want to go out and find one, or
that I would really want that to
happen. There are many perfectly
good reasons where someone might
wish for something knowing it's
unlikely that it will happen.
Maybe if I heard you got squashed
by a truck I might regret that I
said that. There's no way to know
unless it happens.

Post by Mike
If I want to help someone I *DO*, if I don't want to help
them I *DON'T*. Why would I send good wish to someone
I couldn't even bother to help?

Because good wishes do help. Negativity and hatred don't
help. But I don't expect someone as engulfed in hatred as
you are to understand that.

Maybe you never will. You'd have to be open to it first of
all, and probably shed all that bitterness and hatred that
has you all bogged down.

What's the use or purpose of good wishes if they cannot penetrate
to those who you supposedly think needs them?

Steven Douglas

2017-04-27 20:15:38 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

That's because you're a hateful little man. I really hope
your raging hatred isn't eating you alive.

Is God not an angry and jealous God?

You're not God. You're a human being, and human beings can
be eaten alive by anger and hatred.

Context is everything, and you're taking some things out of context.

The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

Post by Mike
and
there is no way to be sure if the stories
are true or, if they were even arranged
in the proper chronological order. Your
reference to contest is irrelevant.

No, it was relevant in that you cherry-pick a Bible verse
here or there out of context. See my earlier paragraph just

Speak for yourself my friend. My ways are NOT your ways, so
I resent your use of the word 'our'.

The context of my use of the word "our" was about the entire
human race. Our ways are not God's ways, which you know since
you know everything about the Bible. Including how recently
it was invented.

Mike

2017-04-27 21:56:21 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

That's because you're a hateful little man. I really hope
your raging hatred isn't eating you alive.

Is God not an angry and jealous God?

You're not God. You're a human being, and human beings can
be eaten alive by anger and hatred.

Context is everything, and you're taking some things out of context.

The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day. Most of the information was passed
down through word of mouth, long before anything was written down.
The sources of the originals are often obscure.
There is no archaeological evidence that Egyptians enslaved
the Jews or any other nation. It's complex were all the scriptures
came from and how they originated.

Post by Mike
and
there is no way to be sure if the stories
are true or, if they were even arranged
in the proper chronological order. Your
reference to contest is irrelevant.

No, it was relevant in that you cherry-pick a Bible verse
here or there out of context. See my earlier paragraph just

Speak for yourself my friend. My ways are NOT your ways, so
I resent your use of the word 'our'.

The context of my use of the word "our" was about the entire
human race.

I've often wondered if I'm really 'human'.
Human beings feel so 'alien' to me.
What a horrible/crooked evil species.
No loving God would want to save them.
If there was a Jesus he would be
doing a disservice to other life on
the planet and in the Universe.
I can't think of one Good reason
why God would want to save them.
So they invented those stories to feel
better about themselves. That's one
theory or possibility. Every man has
to save HIMSELF. That is what I believe.

I feel I have a life purpose.
I'm here to do a specific job.
Everyday, every moment, I'm doing it.
I'm fulfilling my life purpose.
I'm not here to be a 'human'.

One must be a stern to defend yourself
against savages. That's all
you're seeing seeing in me.

Post by Steven Douglas
Our ways are not God's ways, which you know since
you know everything about the Bible. Including how recently
it was invented.

I don't know 'everything about' the Bible, but I certainly
know what's IN IT. That Bible contents are available to
EVERYONE on the Internet. It's easy to lookup anything especially
if you know it's there already. Just ask your
question and you will find it. I even have all the versions
in audio books if I wanted to listen.

I cant say for certain WHEN it was invented.
But I say for sure it was INVENTED.

Steven Douglas

2017-04-28 19:44:19 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

That's because you're a hateful little man. I really hope
your raging hatred isn't eating you alive.

Is God not an angry and jealous God?

You're not God. You're a human being, and human beings can
be eaten alive by anger and hatred.

Context is everything, and you're taking some things out of context.

The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day.

Wow. Just above, when you quoted the Bible, you quoted a verse
from Psalms. Right after that, you quoted Jesus as he referred
to that very same verse. The books of the Old Testament were
around before Jesus.

Mike

2017-04-28 21:21:02 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

That's because you're a hateful little man. I really hope
your raging hatred isn't eating you alive.

Is God not an angry and jealous God?

You're not God. You're a human being, and human beings can
be eaten alive by anger and hatred.

Context is everything, and you're taking some things out of context.

The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day.

But they were not compiled into one book
called the 'Bible'. Back in those days
most people didn't even know how to read.
The printing press wasn't yet invented
so very few had copies of the scriptures
(assuming they had 'copies' back then).
I have no idea what they did. If copies
were made, they were made by hand. Where
humans are involved, there's always a
margin of error. No one is perfect with
copying things.

Steven Douglas

2017-04-29 14:56:31 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day.

But they were not compiled into one book
called the 'Bible'.

But the Jews had the Torah, which consists of the first five
books of the Old Testament.

Post by Mike
Back in those days
most people didn't even know how to read.

But Jesus knew how to read, and there are scriptures in
the New Testament of Jesus citing the Old Testament. The
Bible as we know it today was compiled hundreds and
hundreds of years ago, so to say it's a "recent" invention
is wrong.

Mike

2017-04-29 16:18:30 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day.

But they were not compiled into one book
called the 'Bible'.

But the Jews had the Torah, which consists of the first five
books of the Old Testament.

I'm not getting stupid arguments. You'r just playing with words.
I'm speaking about a specific book called the *BIBLE*. There was no
'Bible' back then. I don't even think they had 'books'. They used
hand scribes parchment and scrolls back then.

Post by Mike
Back in those days
most people didn't even know how to read.

But Jesus knew how to read, and there are scriptures in
the New Testament of Jesus citing the Old Testament.

If there was a Jesus, I feel pretty certain he would have
been affluent enough to known how to read and write. That's
why I know it's just an invented story. There is absolutely
no evidence of any of Jesus 'works'. It's more likely the
story was just promoted or invented.

Post by Steven Douglas
The Bible as we know it today was compiled hundreds and
hundreds of years ago, so to say it's a "recent" invention
is wrong.

This is where you are WRONG my friend. If you have a bunch
of wood and assemble it into a house, the same wood has
value and qualities, far different than the original pile
of lumber. It's the same concept with 'fragments' combined
into a whole Bible. A knitted sweater is far different from
a roll of wool and a roll of wool is far different than
just the hairs on a sheep.

Steven Douglas

2017-04-29 17:50:06 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day.

But they were not compiled into one book
called the 'Bible'.

But the Jews had the Torah, which consists of the first five
books of the Old Testament.

I'm not getting stupid arguments.

Is that because you lack the intellectual capacity to engage in
a real discussion?

Mike

2017-04-29 17:58:21 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day.

But they were not compiled into one book
called the 'Bible'.

But the Jews had the Torah, which consists of the first five
books of the Old Testament.

I'm not getting stupid arguments.

Is that because you lack the intellectual capacity to engage in
a real discussion?

I'm willing to compete on an IQ test with you anytime
you desire. Except I already know you are not going
to take me up on the offer.

Steven Douglas

2017-04-29 18:40:18 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day.

But they were not compiled into one book
called the 'Bible'.

But the Jews had the Torah, which consists of the first five
books of the Old Testament.

I'm not getting stupid arguments.

Is that because you lack the intellectual capacity to engage in
a real discussion?

I'm willing to compete on an IQ test with you anytime
you desire.

I said intellect, not intelligence. Do you know the difference?

Post by Mike
Except I already know you are not going
to take me up on the offer.

I just don't feel the need to compete with you the way you
seem to feel the need to compete with me. But then maybe
that's because you're so obsessed with me.

Mike

2017-04-29 20:12:52 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day.

But they were not compiled into one book
called the 'Bible'.

But the Jews had the Torah, which consists of the first five
books of the Old Testament.

I'm not getting stupid arguments.

Is that because you lack the intellectual capacity to engage in
a real discussion?

I'm willing to compete on an IQ test with you anytime
you desire.

I said intellect, not intelligence. Do you know the difference?

Post by Mike
Except I already know you are not going
to take me up on the offer.

I just don't feel the need to compete with you the way you
seem to feel the need to compete with me. But then maybe
that's because you're so obsessed with me.

Maybe 'compete' was a bad choice of words.
Perhaps I should have used 'outdo'.

Steven Douglas

2017-04-29 20:43:43 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day.

But they were not compiled into one book
called the 'Bible'.

But the Jews had the Torah, which consists of the first five
books of the Old Testament.

I'm not getting stupid arguments.

Is that because you lack the intellectual capacity to engage in
a real discussion?

I'm willing to compete on an IQ test with you anytime
you desire.

I said intellect, not intelligence. Do you know the difference?

Post by Mike
Except I already know you are not going
to take me up on the offer.

I just don't feel the need to compete with you the way you
seem to feel the need to compete with me. But then maybe
that's because you're so obsessed with me.

Maybe 'compete' was a bad choice of words.
Perhaps I should have used 'outdo'.

Perhaps you should have used "obsess".

Mike

2017-04-29 20:52:53 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day.

But they were not compiled into one book
called the 'Bible'.

But the Jews had the Torah, which consists of the first five
books of the Old Testament.

I'm not getting stupid arguments.

Is that because you lack the intellectual capacity to engage in
a real discussion?

I'm willing to compete on an IQ test with you anytime
you desire.

I said intellect, not intelligence. Do you know the difference?

Post by Mike
Except I already know you are not going
to take me up on the offer.

I just don't feel the need to compete with you the way you
seem to feel the need to compete with me. But then maybe
that's because you're so obsessed with me.

Maybe 'compete' was a bad choice of words.
Perhaps I should have used 'outdo'.

Perhaps you should have used "obsess".

.... or should have said nothing.

Steven Douglas

2017-04-29 21:38:09 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day.

But they were not compiled into one book
called the 'Bible'.

But the Jews had the Torah, which consists of the first five
books of the Old Testament.

I'm not getting stupid arguments.

Is that because you lack the intellectual capacity to engage in
a real discussion?

I'm willing to compete on an IQ test with you anytime
you desire.

I said intellect, not intelligence. Do you know the difference?

Post by Mike
Except I already know you are not going
to take me up on the offer.

I just don't feel the need to compete with you the way you
seem to feel the need to compete with me. But then maybe
that's because you're so obsessed with me.

Maybe 'compete' was a bad choice of words.
Perhaps I should have used 'outdo'.

Perhaps you should have used "obsess".

.... or should have said nothing.

That's something you should try more often.

Mike

2017-04-29 20:57:25 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day.

But they were not compiled into one book
called the 'Bible'.

But the Jews had the Torah, which consists of the first five
books of the Old Testament.

I'm not getting stupid arguments.

Is that because you lack the intellectual capacity to engage in
a real discussion?

I'm willing to compete on an IQ test with you anytime
you desire.

I said intellect, not intelligence.

No, you said 'intellectual' not intellect.
Never trust a man that can't remember his
own words.

Post by Steven Douglas
Do you know the difference?

'Do I care?' would have been far better question.

Post by Mike
Except I already know you are not going
to take me up on the offer.

I just don't feel the need to compete with you the way you
seem to feel the need to compete with me. But then maybe
that's because you're so obsessed with me.

Steven Douglas

2017-04-29 21:40:25 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

I had a hard time finding the information I was looking for.
I really don't have the answer. I know for sure there wasn't
any Bible back in Jesus day.

But they were not compiled into one book
called the 'Bible'.

But the Jews had the Torah, which consists of the first five
books of the Old Testament.

I'm not getting stupid arguments.

Is that because you lack the intellectual capacity to engage in
a real discussion?

I'm willing to compete on an IQ test with you anytime
you desire.

I said intellect, not intelligence.

No, you said 'intellectual' not intellect.

I was referring to your intellect when you got confused and
thought I was talking about your intelligence.

Post by Mike
Never trust a man that can't remember his
own words.

You mean the way you didn't remember that you admitted you
hate Jews?

Post by Steven Douglas
Do you know the difference?

'Do I care?' would have been far better question.

It's obvious that you don't, and that's why you don't know
the difference between intellect and intelligence.

Mike

2017-04-27 22:05:34 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

That's because you're a hateful little man. I really hope
your raging hatred isn't eating you alive.

Is God not an angry and jealous God?

You're not God. You're a human being, and human beings can
be eaten alive by anger and hatred.

Context is everything, and you're taking some things out of context.

The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

Post by Mike
and
there is no way to be sure if the stories
are true or, if they were even arranged
in the proper chronological order. Your
reference to contest is irrelevant.

No, it was relevant in that you cherry-pick a Bible verse
here or there out of context.

You do far worse. You ADD THING things that are not
supposed to be. If God abolished certain things,
the Bible should be clear as to when and why
it as abolished and by who. You're not supposed
to invent your own theory on why thy no longer
follow certain verses and be clear as to what
those verses are.

I'm sure the Bible has a warning somewhere about
people who take stuff out. Maybe there should
be a warning too for people who want to ADD their
own stuff.

Steven Douglas

2017-04-28 19:45:21 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

That's because you're a hateful little man. I really hope
your raging hatred isn't eating you alive.

Is God not an angry and jealous God?

You're not God. You're a human being, and human beings can
be eaten alive by anger and hatred.

Context is everything, and you're taking some things out of context.

The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

Post by Mike
and
there is no way to be sure if the stories
are true or, if they were even arranged
in the proper chronological order. Your
reference to contest is irrelevant.

No, it was relevant in that you cherry-pick a Bible verse
here or there out of context.

You do far worse. You ADD THING things

I add nothing. You're wrong again.

Mike

2017-04-28 21:32:12 UTC

Post by Steven Douglas
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

Why do you sneer at my weaknesses then?

I don't. I pity you for your weaknesses.

Post by Mike
Do you respect my respected my strength to
call you out for what you are ... A BAD GUY !!!

No, again I pity you -- this time for your moral confusion.
I've always been ready to be friendly with you.

I have no interest in 'being friendly' with
what needs to be flushed down the toilet.

That's because you're a hateful little man. I really hope
your raging hatred isn't eating you alive.

Is God not an angry and jealous God?

You're not God. You're a human being, and human beings can
be eaten alive by anger and hatred.

Context is everything, and you're taking some things out of context.

The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

Post by Mike
and
there is no way to be sure if the stories
are true or, if they were even arranged
in the proper chronological order. Your
reference to contest is irrelevant.

No, it was relevant in that you cherry-pick a Bible verse
here or there out of context.

You do far worse. You ADD THING things

I add nothing. You're wrong again.

I feel you keep infecting with our own interpretation.
If the Bible says something, I accept it as a fact.
A 'fact' in the sense I know it's in there. If you
say certain customs were changed then you have to
show how God changed it. Otherwise they are breaking
Gods law. If God commanded you to kill shouldn't
you obey him? Abraham was going to sacrifice his
son and God loved that he would have done it.

You're injecting with your own opinions and
sort of pretending your words are Gods.

Steven Douglas

2017-04-29 15:01:01 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

Post by Mike
and
there is no way to be sure if the stories
are true or, if they were even arranged
in the proper chronological order. Your
reference to contest is irrelevant.

No, it was relevant in that you cherry-pick a Bible verse
here or there out of context.

You do far worse. You ADD THING things

I add nothing. You're wrong again.

There is the fact that those ancient Jewish laws are no
longer enforced. That's because the Jewish judges who
originally enforced those laws no longer exist in this
world.

Post by Mike
Otherwise they are breaking
Gods law. If God commanded you to kill shouldn't
you obey him?

There is nothing in the Bible that commands any individual
in today's world to kill.

Post by Mike
Abraham was going to sacrifice his
son and God loved that he would have done it.

That is a story that applies to no one living today.

Post by Mike
You're injecting with your own opinions and
sort of pretending your words are Gods.

I'm not the one who calls myself God. That would be you.

Mike

2017-04-29 16:41:46 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

Post by Mike
and
there is no way to be sure if the stories
are true or, if they were even arranged
in the proper chronological order. Your
reference to contest is irrelevant.

No, it was relevant in that you cherry-pick a Bible verse
here or there out of context.

You do far worse. You ADD THING things

I add nothing. You're wrong again.

There is the fact that those ancient Jewish laws are no
longer enforced. That's because the Jewish judges who
originally enforced those laws no longer exist in this
world.

What happened to the Judges. Where did they go?
And who was responsible for getting rid of them?

Post by Mike
Otherwise they are breaking
Gods law. If God commanded you to kill shouldn't
you obey him?

There is nothing in the Bible that commands any individual
in today's world to kill.

There's nothing in the Bible that 'command' or speak
anyone in 'today world', period.

Post by Mike
Abraham was going to sacrifice his
son and God loved that he would have done it.

That is a story that applies to no one living today.

Same as for everything else in the Bible.
Not a single person is living still, even
if they were twice as old as Methuselah.

Post by Mike
You're injecting with your own opinions and
sort of pretending your words are Gods.

I'm not the one who calls myself God. That would be you.

I have pity on you then, because that makes you
a *sinner*. A sinner is one separated from God
and you have decided to separate yourself from him.

I recognize my connection to the one spiritual
force in the Universe, at all times. I am *ALWAYS*
connected with God.

God is like the 'electricity' that runs
through your appliances. A toaster runs on
electricity. So does your washing machined, or
vacuum cleaner. Likewise everything that lives
is tuning with the energy of life. Life and
God have identical meanings. If you are not
God you are denying his presence and basically
declaring yourself as DEAD!!

Steven Douglas

2017-04-29 17:55:13 UTC

Post by Mike
The Bible itself is out of 'context'. Until
recent times there was no such thing as the
Bible. The Bible is a recent invention

How recent?

Post by Mike
and
there is no way to be sure if the stories
are true or, if they were even arranged
in the proper chronological order. Your
reference to contest is irrelevant.

No, it was relevant in that you cherry-pick a Bible verse
here or there out of context.

You do far worse. You ADD THING things

I add nothing. You're wrong again.

There is the fact that those ancient Jewish laws are no
longer enforced. That's because the Jewish judges who
originally enforced those laws no longer exist in this
world.

What happened to the Judges. Where did they go?

I don't know. It may be that they were disbanded when the
original Israel was destroyed. The modern version of Israel
is a more secular state.

docufo

2017-04-26 21:23:55 UTC

First you cried about Trump's saber rattling, and now you cry
because he moved the ships away? Make up your mind.
And since when do you think you need to be apprised of the
movement of ships? I think it's great the way he's keeping
that jerk dictator in North Korea off balance. That missile
they tried to launch blew up immediately after launch. Some
people think we did that by hacking into their operations
systems, and hitting the auto-destruct button. If you found
out that were the case, would it make you cry?

The "jerk" and the "dictator" are laughably embodied by you and Trump,,
respectively.

Post by docufo
You didn't like Obama for not going ahead with the cruise missile show
against Assad and the S.A. At least, Obama had them readied.

Obama demonstrated weakness. Trump is demonstrating strength.
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

There was a misunderstanding, based on a press release from the
Pacific Command that was misinterpreted by the media and some
Headline: "U.S. defense officials may have spoken too soon,
but Trump’s missing ‘armada’ finally heading to Korea"
[excerpt] It appears the confusion over its whereabouts
stemmed from a U.S. Pacific Command announcement that
“could have been worded a little more clearly,” in the
words of a defense official speaking on the condition of
anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the
record.
On April 9, the Pacific Command announced that the strike
group was heading to the “Western Pacific,” even as a
spokesman for the Pacific Command linked the move directly
to North Korea’s “reckless, irresponsible and destabilizing
program of missile tests and pursuit of a nuclear weapons
capability.”
Days later, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis told reporters
that the Carl Vinson was “on her way up there.” In an
interview that aired April 12, President Trump said the
United States was sending ships. “An armada, very
powerful,” he said.
They were not exactly wrong, Navy officials now say.
It’s just that the change of course toward the Korean
Peninsula had not happened yet. [end excerpt]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/trumps-missing-armada-finally-heading-to-korea--and-may-stay-a-while/2017/04/19/734ac5e7-ad0c-4395-9cfe-43a9596dca7b_story.html?utm_term=.12918697ee25

Or should we cower in fear the way we did under the weakling
Obama?

What Trump is demonstrating is how a totally inept confused leader of a
the world's biggest military can't get naval ships to where he and his
cabinet said they were.

And how idiotic whiners like yourself don't recognize that being
"strong" first requires carrying through on one's claim of military
movement.

A weak mind or minds flubbed that PR attempt to make Trump look "strong"
or "tough."

Instead, he looked just what you accused Obama of - confused, blowing
smoke, if not lying his pants off.

How does it feel supporting such a damned "amateur", eh??

^Y^
V lolol!!

Steven Douglas

2017-04-27 05:07:43 UTC

Post by docufo
What Trump is demonstrating is how a totally inept confused leader of a
the world's biggest military can't get naval ships to where he and his
cabinet said they were.

But he got that airbase in Syria targeted and hit pretty quickly,
didn't he? Obama sat on his thumbs in a similar situation, which
only emboldened Assad. Looks like Assad was testing Trump to see
if he'd be as weak as Obama. He got his answer.

Post by docufo
And how idiotic whiners like yourself don't recognize that being
"strong" first requires carrying through on one's claim of military
movement.

Why do we need to tell the world what we're doing? Did we do
that before D-Day, when we were trying to confused the German
military?

Post by docufo
A weak mind or minds flubbed that PR attempt to make Trump look "strong"
or "tough."

That MOAB made him look strong and tough, didn't it?

Post by docufo
Instead, he looked just what you accused Obama of - confused, blowing
smoke, if not lying his pants off.

Where is that ship now? After it finished some long-planned war
games with the Australian navy?

Post by docufo
How does it feel supporting such a damned "amateur", eh??

I'm happy with my vote. I'll keep telling you that every time
you question me on it.

docufo

2017-04-27 06:11:12 UTC

Post by docufo
What Trump is demonstrating is how a totally inept confused leader of a
the world's biggest military can't get naval ships to where he and his
cabinet said they were.

Yep, but we haven't yet gotten Assad's counter action. So now we're into
the civil war in Syria as well as battling ISIL. And we're still into
the war in Afghanistan. And we're into periodical warfare in Yemen,
Sudan, and Somalia. You know what's glaringly missing here? IRAN. We
need to add them to our "liberation" list.
For a real good time, bomb Iran.

Post by docufo
And how idiotic whiners like yourself don't recognize that being
"strong" first requires carrying through on one's claim of military
movement.

Why do we need to tell the world what we're doing? Did we do
that before D-Day, when we were trying to confused the German
military?

Well, Trump told the American people he had the Vinson armada
positioning itself hundreds of miles off the Korean coast. His top
cabinet members repeated the claim. Does it not bother you at all that
all of them lied, or worse yet, were possibly so incompetent they
couldn't keep track?

Post by docufo
A weak mind or minds flubbed that PR attempt to make Trump look "strong"
or "tough."

That MOAB made him look strong and tough, didn't it?

The big bomb did little to hurt ISIL, junior. As in Syria, it was a
showboat action of an badly embattled Presidency whose troubles usually
erupt every time Donald burns too much midnight oil alone tweeting his
rocks off.

Post by docufo
Instead, he looked just what you accused Obama of - confused, blowing
smoke, if not lying his pants off.

Where is that ship now? After it finished some long-planned war
games with the Australian navy?

It's reportedly sailing to a position somewhere off the Korean peninsula
long after the two major celebratory events had ended - and without
incident, fortunately for the people of South and North Korea and much
of SE Asia. I think Donald's accepting intel that indicates Jong-un's
nuclear capability isn't nearly as evolved as the propaganda coming from
him and his cohorts.

No rational reason not to emphasize at this critical moment the
importance of negotiations over military posturing. And what has Trump
directly done with Pyongyang to defuse this dangerous crisis? Nothing.
Instead, he turns to China as a mediator of sorts. China's unlikely to
coerce Jong-un to abandon his nuke program. And unless he dismantles it,
any other rationale for this crisis to go away permanently is invalid.
Trump has called down the thunder, junior, and he may well wish he
hadn't used this diversion from his domestic hell pit he's sinking
deeper in.

You should go down to Hell with him for a real good time. I bet he'd try
to take over Satan's job.

That might be a better leadership position for the kind of person he is.

^Y^
O

Post by docufo
How does it feel supporting such a damned "amateur", eh??

I'm happy with my vote. I'll keep telling you that every time
you question me on it.

Steven Douglas

2017-04-27 15:38:49 UTC

Post by docufo
What Trump is demonstrating is how a totally inept confused leader of a
the world's biggest military can't get naval ships to where he and his
cabinet said they were.

Yep, but we haven't yet gotten Assad's counter action.

If he's smart, he won't have one. But if he's as dumb as most
jerk dictators are, he will do something stupid and get even
more cruise missiles fired at him.

Post by docufo
So now we're into
the civil war in Syria as well as battling ISIL.

Obama threatened Assad with military force if Assad used
chemical weapons. Then, after Assad used chemical weapons
anyway, Obama backed down. That is weak.

Post by docufo
And we're still into
the war in Afghanistan. And we're into periodical warfare in Yemen,
Sudan, and Somalia. You know what's glaringly missing here? IRAN. We
need to add them to our "liberation" list.
For a real good time, bomb Iran.

Iran is a state-sponsor of terrorism. But Obama wanted to
be nice to them, hoping they'd be nice to us in return. That's
like me thinking being nice to you will make you want to be
nice to me. It's not going to happen. Hateful people will not
be nice just because we're nice to them. The only language
bad guys understand is even bigger force against them. That's
what Hitler finally learned -- though you think we should
have left Hitler alone and let him conquer the world.

Post by docufo
And how idiotic whiners like yourself don't recognize that being
"strong" first requires carrying through on one's claim of military
movement.

Why do we need to tell the world what we're doing? Did we do
that before D-Day, when we were trying to confused the German
military?

The Navy admiral in charge of the Pacific Command says the
misunderstanding was his fault. But what difference does it
make that you feel slighted because you didn't know the precise
movements of navy ships?

Post by docufo
A weak mind or minds flubbed that PR attempt to make Trump look "strong"
or "tough."

That MOAB made him look strong and tough, didn't it?

The big bomb did little to hurt ISIL, junior.

I'll bet it had a big psychological effect on them, despite
whatever you think you know about it.

Post by docufo
As in Syria, it was a
showboat action of an badly embattled Presidency whose troubles usually
erupt every time Donald burns too much midnight oil alone tweeting his
rocks off.

I hope it was a showboat action, and the cowardly terrorists
are still shaking from the size of that blast.

Post by docufo
Instead, he looked just what you accused Obama of - confused, blowing
smoke, if not lying his pants off.

Where is that ship now? After it finished some long-planned war
games with the Australian navy?

How do you know? Since when are you such an expert on
matters such as this? China already turned around a
shipment of coal from North Korea, and bought from us
instead. You think North Korea didn't notice that?

Post by docufo
And unless he dismantles it,
any other rationale for this crisis to go away permanently is invalid.
Trump has called down the thunder, junior, and he may well wish he
hadn't used this diversion from his domestic hell pit he's sinking
deeper in.

What are you babbling about?

docufo

2017-05-02 05:36:42 UTC

First you cried about Trump's saber rattling, and now you cry
because he moved the ships away? Make up your mind.
And since when do you think you need to be apprised of the
movement of ships? I think it's great the way he's keeping
that jerk dictator in North Korea off balance. That missile
they tried to launch blew up immediately after launch. Some
people think we did that by hacking into their operations
systems, and hitting the auto-destruct button. If you found
out that were the case, would it make you cry?

The "jerk" and the "dictator" are laughably embodied by you and Trump,,
respectively.

You can't even let my insult of the North Korean dictator stand.

I didn't know it was an insult. I thought it was more an incitement to
get into another useless bloody large war. Aren't the current Mideast
wars enough to satisfy your appetite for armed conflict? Why not start
up one with Iran now, too? Might as well throw in all the hardware and
honchos into more wars to ensure you and your nationalist hyenas will
feel America's still the top dog.

Top dog of exactly what, however, is the real issue.

Post by Steven Douglas
You must deflect from it and make it about someone else. That
shows just how much you love evil dictators like the one they
have in North Korea. Why do you love evil dictators so much?

Post by docufo
You didn't like Obama for not going ahead with the cruise missile show
against Assad and the S.A. At least, Obama had them readied.

Obama demonstrated weakness. Trump is demonstrating strength.
Bad guys respect strength, but they sneer at weakness.

That could be true. You're a bad guy, an inveterate liar and unrelenting
sadist, arrogant and divisive, turning one against the other, a lover of
wars, and a lover of wealth and power - yes, you could be right. Bad
guys respect strength but they sneer at weakness. LOL!

There was a misunderstanding, based on a press release from the
Pacific Command that was misinterpreted by the media and some

Nothing much is or has been "okay" under the extreme contentiousness and
instability of Trump and his cabinet cohorts. You're dangerously doing
what the mass media is beginning to fall into - nurturing a growing
accommodation or even acceptance of an inept eccentric, if not
psychotic, leader. It's like real stories of a crazed patriarch heading
up a family who've become adjusted to his insanity, and in doing so,
have become nearly as crazed. LOL! If his raunchy reign continues for
two or more years, you can be assured the mass media, politicians, and
the public won't know the difference between sanity and insanity - if,
in fact, they ever have in modern times. OH, it'll become a matter of
affixing blame to everyone or anything except Donald. King Donald will
be the splendidly perfect erratic troubled modern version of Nero. All
Donald needs to complete the scenario is to take up the lyre and strum
and sing his own songs.

Post by Steven Douglas
Headline: "U.S. defense officials may have spoken too soon,
but Trump’s missing ‘armada’ finally heading to Korea"
[excerpt] It appears the confusion over its whereabouts
stemmed from a U.S. Pacific Command announcement that
“could have been worded a little more clearly,” in the
words of a defense official speaking on the condition of
anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the
record.
On April 9, the Pacific Command announced that the strike
group was heading to the “Western Pacific,” even as a
spokesman for the Pacific Command linked the move directly
to North Korea’s “reckless, irresponsible and destabilizing
program of missile tests and pursuit of a nuclear weapons
capability.”
Days later, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis told reporters
that the Carl Vinson was “on her way up there.” In an
interview that aired April 12, President Trump said the
United States was sending ships. “An armada, very
powerful,” he said.
They were not exactly wrong, Navy officials now say.
It’s just that the change of course toward the Korean
Peninsula had not happened yet. [end excerpt]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/trumps-missing-armada-finally-heading-to-korea--and-may-stay-a-while/2017/04/19/734ac5e7-ad0c-4395-9cfe-43a9596dca7b_story.html?utm_term=.12918697ee25

Or should we cower in fear the way we did under the weakling
Obama?

Fear of what precisely? North Korea committing national suicide by
attacking our allies or us? You mean, a huge absence of a functional
Pyongyang will open up more U.S. and allied investment in a unified (but
much damaged) Korea? We and our allies can go in and manage the great
recovery project. EH? Or, do you think Jong-un will accept Trump's
prerequisites for negotiations with him? Bow to give up his missile
testing, his nuclear program? And why would be want to with threats of a
preemptive attack - an attack that would not occur if North Korea had an
effective nuclear weaponry system. Are we hurrying along knowing that
once they put such a system into operation, our and our allies'
hegemonic aspirations will be forever thwarted?

LOL! Obama didn't want to jeopardize the people of S. Korea, Japan or
anyone in SE Asia. And not instigate more terrorism by attacking Assad's
forces, and risking a widening of general warfare in the Mideast.

One more supposed Assad gas attack on civilians or another mid or
long-range missile test, or another nuke test - all it will take to have
a pretext for a preemptive US attack. We'd better get the intel and
evidence down right this time. Unlike Saddam, Jong-un's not just
planning for nukes. He's already got the A-bomb in some form.

But if it's as developed as some analysts favorable to Trump's "strong
man" approach think it is, then it'd be quite foolish to agitate Jong-un
- that is, if a tough-talking leader like Trump (AND Jong-un) want to
continue their leadership roles. If Trump's preemptive military action
spurs an all-out invasion and/or a nuclear strike on Seoul, then he'll
be run out of office for the inhuman carnage. If Jong-un makes a
preemptive major military move, whether nuclear or conventional, it'll
be his and his nation's suicide.

It would therefore seem advantageous to both leaders and their peoples
to seek compromise through top-level negotiations with the U.S., S.
Korea, and China.

Being tough isn't enough to ease up human evil, junior, if it results in
a horrid miscalculation that results in a massive loss of civilian life.
So, clearly, talking tough and posturing can cause errors of judgement
if left to escalate. Cheering on such toughness is adding fuel to a fire
that needn't be started in the first place.

@Y@
~

Steven Douglas

2017-05-02 16:11:23 UTC

First you cried about Trump's saber rattling, and now you cry
because he moved the ships away? Make up your mind.
And since when do you think you need to be apprised of the
movement of ships? I think it's great the way he's keeping
that jerk dictator in North Korea off balance. That missile
they tried to launch blew up immediately after launch. Some
people think we did that by hacking into their operations
systems, and hitting the auto-destruct button. If you found
out that were the case, would it make you cry?

The "jerk" and the "dictator" are laughably embodied by you and Trump,,
respectively.

You can't even let my insult of the North Korean dictator stand.

I didn't know it was an insult. I thought it was more an incitement to
get into another useless bloody large war. Aren't the current Mideast
wars enough to satisfy your appetite for armed conflict?

I have no appetite for armed conflict. Just to educate you, it
was North Korea that started the Korean war. That war has never
ended, and now the jerk dictator of North Korea continues to
make threats of war, and you excuse him for that while you
become quite incensed at anyone who would dare stand up to the
jerk dictator that you love so much.

docufo

2017-05-03 07:48:17 UTC

First you cried about Trump's saber rattling, and now you cry
because he moved the ships away? Make up your mind.
And since when do you think you need to be apprised of the
movement of ships? I think it's great the way he's keeping
that jerk dictator in North Korea off balance. That missile
they tried to launch blew up immediately after launch. Some
people think we did that by hacking into their operations
systems, and hitting the auto-destruct button. If you found
out that were the case, would it make you cry?

The "jerk" and the "dictator" are laughably embodied by you and Trump,,
respectively.

You can't even let my insult of the North Korean dictator stand.

I didn't know it was an insult. I thought it was more an incitement to
get into another useless bloody large war. Aren't the current Mideast
wars enough to satisfy your appetite for armed conflict?

If I could have one dollar for every fucking "threat" the U.S. and or
its allies have endured for over 60 years from Pyongyang, I'd be a
millionaire.

LOL! What I do understand clearly is that an embattled President with
historically low approval ratings, with no political office experience
whatsoever, and a bullheaded approach to "revolutionizing" our
government (and, hence, our lives) that has thus far ran into one brick
wall after another is the motivation to suddenly inflate the N. Korea
"threat." And diverting attention away from serious and mounting
administrative problems, personality deficiencies, but in the thick of
it, a pre-Presidential Trump has manifested, still up to his ol' stump
tricks. The inflammatory brinkmanship rhetoric flows freely from his
peachy noggin.

The S. Korean people have endured countless defense drills for decades,
and have had many DMZ-related crises, and of course an endless
procession of invasion or attack threats. They've become sadly
accustomed to it. And they know that propaganda prevails for all parties
involved, and political exploitation is always present.

If N. Korea can effectively deliver a nuke warhead by missile, it will
be highly unlikely the U.S. will attack it. And that means that we and
the world will have to adjust to one more nuclear military power - a
chain created by our first development and deployment of it on mostly
innocent civilians.

The Korean conflict should've been left alone, but the U.S. was immersed
in a Cold War "rationale" that proposed the commies were spreading their
disease - and if not stopped in SE Asia, it'd just engulf the whole wide
world. Korea's conflict then became ours - to save the world from
commies! LOL!

As it was also advertised with the the contrived Vietnam involvement.

Today, it's not an issue of stopping communism so much as lucratively
accommodating what's left of it in China and Vietnam - and it wouldn't
be a stretch to accommodate it in N. Korea, either. And mutually benefit
commercially, as usual.

In another post, I proposed that the evolution of N. Korea's nuke
program has been filled with hot air. A lot of rhetoric for several
thinly veiled political and commercial reasons.

They have tested a low-range atomic bomb. And they're apparently
working on miniaturizing it and affixing it to the tip of a mid- and/or
long-range missile. The fact they have nuclear capability, albeit not
currently portable enough, should be a real caution to "tough talk"
advocators. How reliable the intel is on the progress of their nuke
program is not known to the public.

What we're experiencing is a crafted crisis to gain commercial and
political advantages - but we shouldn't be lulled into a frame of mind
that there isn't a real chance miscalculation could occur. It will be
the Korean people that will suffer the worst. And they've suffered
enough at the hands of the rich and powerful. Trump is not liked by
them, having enraged many S. Koreans two weeks ago, stating that Korea
was once part of China. LOL!

Quote:

In the meantime, Trump has reportedly settled on a “maximum pressure and
engagement” strategy on North Korea, which is mainly about enlisting the
help of Beijing to put pressure on Pyongyang.
“It’s highly possible that China will try to solve the problems
surrounding the Korean Peninsula based on a hegemonic stance that likens
the Koreas to Chinese vassal states,” said the Munhwa Ilbo newspaper on
Thursday. “If Trump has agreed with this view, you will never know what
kind of a deal the two global powers will make over the fate of the
Korean Peninsula.”

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/ap-explains-how-a-single-trump-sentence-enraged-south-korea/

Whatever it is, it'll ultimately favor the global elitists' investments.
That you can count on.

^Y^
~

Steven Douglas

2017-05-03 17:26:13 UTC

First you cried about Trump's saber rattling, and now you cry
because he moved the ships away? Make up your mind.
And since when do you think you need to be apprised of the
movement of ships? I think it's great the way he's keeping
that jerk dictator in North Korea off balance. That missile
they tried to launch blew up immediately after launch. Some
people think we did that by hacking into their operations
systems, and hitting the auto-destruct button. If you found
out that were the case, would it make you cry?

The "jerk" and the "dictator" are laughably embodied by you and Trump,,
respectively.

You can't even let my insult of the North Korean dictator stand.

I didn't know it was an insult. I thought it was more an incitement to
get into another useless bloody large war. Aren't the current Mideast
wars enough to satisfy your appetite for armed conflict?

If I could have one dollar for every fucking "threat" the U.S. and or
its allies have endured for over 60 years from Pyongyang, I'd be a
millionaire.

Thank you for proving my point that you excuse the jerk dictator
(that you, of course, love so much) for his threats of war. But
you conveniently ignore that it was North Korea that started the
Korean War in the first place, and that war was never officially
ended so that peninsula remains in a continual state of war.
But you think it's no big deal because you love dictators that
start wars and make threats of more wars.

Post by docufo
What I do understand clearly is that an embattled President with
historically low approval ratings, with no political office experience
whatsoever, and a bullheaded approach to "revolutionizing" our
government (and, hence, our lives) that has thus far ran into one brick
wall after another is the motivation to suddenly inflate the N. Korea
"threat."

Bill Clinton did it by making a deal with North Korea that has
allowed the jerk dictator (that you love so much) to now have
nuclear capability, which I'm sure you celebrate.

Obama's way of dealing with North Korea was to tip-toe around
it like the pansy he proved himself to be. Of course you love
it when our country portrays weakness. The weaker the better,
as far as you're concerned, because you love jerk dictators
and don't want anyone to ever get in their way.

Post by docufo
And diverting attention away from serious and mounting

The jerk dictator is now threatening us with the potential of
nuclear weapons. That is something new, despite your weak
attempt to say this has all been going on for decades (with
your approval, because you love jerk dictators so much),
and the Seattle region would probably be their first target
since you are geographically closer to North Korea than the
rest of us.

But you don't care, as long as the jerk dictator can do some
damage to the country you hate so much.

docufo

2017-05-04 07:47:49 UTC

First you cried about Trump's saber rattling, and now you cry
because he moved the ships away? Make up your mind.
And since when do you think you need to be apprised of the
movement of ships? I think it's great the way he's keeping
that jerk dictator in North Korea off balance. That missile
they tried to launch blew up immediately after launch. Some
people think we did that by hacking into their operations
systems, and hitting the auto-destruct button. If you found
out that were the case, would it make you cry?

The "jerk" and the "dictator" are laughably embodied by you and Trump,,
respectively.

You can't even let my insult of the North Korean dictator stand.

I didn't know it was an insult. I thought it was more an incitement to
get into another useless bloody large war. Aren't the current Mideast
wars enough to satisfy your appetite for armed conflict?

If I could have one dollar for every fucking "threat" the U.S. and or
its allies have endured for over 60 years from Pyongyang, I'd be a
millionaire.

What is glaringly factual is that the Korean people have endured threats
from N. Korea for decades and no invasion has occurred. It's highly
unlikely that a nuclear strike by N. Korea anywhere will ensure their
quick demise. So, we're thinking that Pyongyang will commit national
suicide? Or that a preemptive strike on their missile/nuke projects will
be some kind of easement in the decades-old face-off. It began as a Cold
War icon, as Vietnam was. A battle of good vs. evil, supposedly,
globally between the USSR and USA.

Now,, it's being exploited as a convenient (but dangerous) political
diversion from the ongoing Trump administration disaster. And it's not
genius, no, not even at the sub-level of Sarah Palin's worldview (she
could see Russia from her home!). It's merely a piss-poor Presidency
that's in grave trouble, that never got a majority vote. Imagine all the
political offices people vote candidates into by a majority, but only
the President gets elected by a minority. And that's the kind of
"democracy" you support. Oh, I'm fucking sorry, in your book, it's a
"republic" so that representation of one's votes by a different value of
calculation (that simply boils down to a minority electing a President),
makes it a fair system that accurately reflects the majority will of the
people. Which of course it fucking doesn't, yet you go along with it. If
you had any real interest in fair politicking and electoral honesty,
you'd be railing against the minority-elected Trump - not to even
mention his fucking crappy behavior. And of course, he's inept as all
hell. LOL! You'd hang onto Dennis Rodman if he became President,
defending him at every turn. You support freaks and fuck-ups, junior.
Rodman and Trump should meet with Jong-un. Why not? It's a damned
demented political circus - why not pull out all the fucking stops?? EH??

Bill Clinton did it by making a deal with North Korea that has
allowed the jerk dictator (that you love so much) to now have
nuclear capability, which I'm sure you celebrate.

I've never once said I liked Jong-un. But you like that piece of fucking
crazy shit called Donald. LOL! Too bad you don't have a pussy, or you'd
be fearful he'd grab it. The decline of the USA is so very apparent. I
will hand it to Trump for pushing America's dark underbelly right out
into the sunlight for all to see. The world's looking at it in all its
stinky glory and it's just a matter of time and circumstance until the
shit really hits the fan. America's always been a greedy, violent,
arrogant, stupid and lying swamp, junior, and now it's running
critically low on SANITY as well. Give that creep Trump just one year
and we'll all be living in Hades. You're a dope, junior.

Post by Steven Douglas
Obama's way of dealing with North Korea was to tip-toe around
it like the pansy he proved himself to be. Of course you love
it when our country portrays weakness.

Strength without wisdom is nothing more than self-delusion.

The weaker the better,

Post by Steven Douglas
as far as you're concerned, because you love jerk dictators
and don't want anyone to ever get in their way.

That would best describe the creep and his fans you support. LOL!

Post by docufo
And diverting attention away from serious and mounting

No, I worry not about a nuke strike from N. Korea but a dumb-ass
reckless egotistical turd that spends his late nights online spinning
tales to titillate a bored jaded media and public - people just like
yourself looking for sensation and quick fixes to compliment their
narrow tyrannical ideologies. Yep, Donald's here, you reason, to destroy
the human evil in the world. It'll never be gotten rid of as long as a
small percentage of the world's populace keeps thinking their nation
needs to dominate all others. To be "first" to Americans like yourself
is really just a code word for being always superior to all other
nations. That isn't a great formula for nations to trust each other,
compromise, and live in peace.

No, America's not interested in being No. 2 in anything. But it's
currently at the bottom rung for a national leader. LOLol!!!

^Y^
U

Post by Steven Douglas
But you don't care, as long as the jerk dictator can do some
damage to the country you hate so much.

Steven Douglas

2017-05-04 20:33:19 UTC

First you cried about Trump's saber rattling, and now you cry
because he moved the ships away? Make up your mind.
And since when do you think you need to be apprised of the
movement of ships? I think it's great the way he's keeping
that jerk dictator in North Korea off balance. That missile
they tried to launch blew up immediately after launch. Some
people think we did that by hacking into their operations
systems, and hitting the auto-destruct button. If you found
out that were the case, would it make you cry?

The "jerk" and the "dictator" are laughably embodied by you and Trump,,
respectively.

You can't even let my insult of the North Korean dictator stand.

I didn't know it was an insult. I thought it was more an incitement to
get into another useless bloody large war. Aren't the current Mideast
wars enough to satisfy your appetite for armed conflict?

If I could have one dollar for every fucking "threat" the U.S. and or
its allies have endured for over 60 years from Pyongyang, I'd be a
millionaire.

Look how you gloss over the fact that it was the communists who
were the aggressors, in both Korea and Vietnam. Not to mention
what the evil commies did in (and to) Central America. No, to you
it just sort of happened, all by itself. Just a simple disagreement
between the two sides. To you, one side is no more at fault than
the other side -- or maybe you actually blame us, which is probably
more likely. You really have a twisted sense of morality. Which
is why I can only read so much of your crap before my eyes glaze
over.

docufo

2017-05-05 00:04:41 UTC

First you cried about Trump's saber rattling, and now you cry
because he moved the ships away? Make up your mind.
And since when do you think you need to be apprised of the
movement of ships? I think it's great the way he's keeping
that jerk dictator in North Korea off balance. That missile
they tried to launch blew up immediately after launch. Some
people think we did that by hacking into their operations
systems, and hitting the auto-destruct button. If you found
out that were the case, would it make you cry?

The "jerk" and the "dictator" are laughably embodied by you and Trump,,
respectively.

You can't even let my insult of the North Korean dictator stand.

I didn't know it was an insult. I thought it was more an incitement to
get into another useless bloody large war. Aren't the current Mideast
wars enough to satisfy your appetite for armed conflict?

If I could have one dollar for every fucking "threat" the U.S. and or
its allies have endured for over 60 years from Pyongyang, I'd be a
millionaire.

Your vaunted leader Trump has virtually accused Seoul of being thieves
or slackers. Getting our protection for practically nothing. And now
Seoul cries and complains the USA wants it to pay up even though it has
already paid for US troops there.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/10/donald-trump/donald-trump-mostly-wrong-we-get-practically-nothi/
First, he accuses them of slacking on paying, being like thieves
essentially, and exploiting our defense presence. Then he pushed them
into more war jeopardy.
How hilarious! Albeit tragically.
It seems your Donald has no understanding of the predicament the U.S.
largely put them into with his militarized entry into the conflict.
They've lived with invasion or annihilation threats for over 60 years,
and then Trump heightens the tension even more with suggestions of a
preemptive assault on N. Korea - and talks clearly of "getting rid of
the N. Korea problem."
That put the S. Koreans into even more jeopardy, as he scolded them for
getting our protection for "practically nothing." Previously, he'd
claimed they got it totally free of payback.
Well, having you defend this asshole is going to provide me with
considerable amusement.
That's for sure.
LOL!

@Y@
U lol!

Steven Douglas

2017-05-06 05:50:13 UTC

Post by docufo
It seems your Donald has no understanding of the predicament the U.S.
largely put them into with his militarized entry into the conflict.

You're still ignoring that it was the evil commies who were
always the aggressors in Korea. And in Vietnam, for that matter.
But then you love the commies, don't you?

a***@yahoo.com

2017-05-07 04:15:31 UTC

FDR had Churchill force equipment to commy army; ur #dragon state lies to a dumbass= u.u

l***@optusnet.com.au

2017-04-16 23:33:16 UTC

So the purpose of this large bomb dropped on a cave system, reputedly that has a an extensive network of tunnels, so why not just put surveillance on it map it out, and bop whoever is on the list, as they enter, or depart, or better yet take it over, since the western coalition, has had it's arse wopped perhaps it is sour grapes, and Binnie's strategic disappearance, is not to be repeated, or maybe T Rump just wants to say "I carry a big stick, and am not afraid to use it" but can he go lower than Fallujah?
@:)>

docufo

2017-04-19 10:31:23 UTC

Post by docufo
As you may have noted in the headline news today, the USAF dropped
the "mother of all bombs" reportedly on a major underground
facilities belonging to ISIL in Afghanistan.
Trump hailed as it as "another successful job."
The 21,000+ lb. 30 foot guided non-nuclear bomb shook a 15- sq.
mile wide area like a small earthquake.
It was the first time the Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb or MOAB
(nicknamed Mother Of All Bombs) was used in combat operations.
The mother of all Presidents has previewed his "solution" to
eradicating ISIL (and all terrorists) - as he said on his stump
speech, "we're gonna bomb the SHIT out of 'em."
The SHIT apparently has begun.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/afghanistan-isis-moab-bomb/
A happy Steven Douglas is dancing with his regal cat tonight.
^Y^ U

So the purpose of this large bomb dropped on a cave system, reputedly
that has a an extensive network of tunnels, so why not just put
surveillance on it map it out, and bop whoever is on the list, as
they enter, or depart, or better yet take it over, since the western
coalition, has had it's arse wopped perhaps it is sour grapes, and
Binnie's strategic disappearance, is not to be repeated, or maybe T
Rump just wants to say "I carry a big stick, and am not afraid to use

Leigh, his "big stick" is floating AWAY from its earlier announced
mission of parking 300 miles off North Korea, previously ready to deal
with the "North Korea problem," as 'Trump called it. It seemed the
failed missile test was the catalyst that sent the armada southward
towards your nation. It was reported that if the missile had succeeded,
the Carl Vincent might've shot it down. The US armada is now reportedly
sailing towards Australia, and once docked, US sailors will be allowed
to mate with the locals.

^Y^
U

Steven Douglas

2017-04-20 05:30:29 UTC

Post by docufo
As you may have noted in the headline news today, the USAF dropped
the "mother of all bombs" reportedly on a major underground
facilities belonging to ISIL in Afghanistan.
Trump hailed as it as "another successful job."
The 21,000+ lb. 30 foot guided non-nuclear bomb shook a 15- sq.
mile wide area like a small earthquake.
It was the first time the Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb or MOAB
(nicknamed Mother Of All Bombs) was used in combat operations.
The mother of all Presidents has previewed his "solution" to
eradicating ISIL (and all terrorists) - as he said on his stump
speech, "we're gonna bomb the SHIT out of 'em."
The SHIT apparently has begun.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/afghanistan-isis-moab-bomb/
A happy Steven Douglas is dancing with his regal cat tonight.
^Y^ U

So the purpose of this large bomb dropped on a cave system, reputedly
that has a an extensive network of tunnels, so why not just put
surveillance on it map it out, and bop whoever is on the list, as
they enter, or depart, or better yet take it over, since the western
coalition, has had it's arse wopped perhaps it is sour grapes, and
Binnie's strategic disappearance, is not to be repeated, or maybe T
Rump just wants to say "I carry a big stick, and am not afraid to use

Leigh, his "big stick" is floating AWAY from its earlier announced

Speaking of Leigh, it seems he's disappeared since JTEM gave
him that challenge about Darwin. I was really hoping Leigh
would have the courage to respond, but it's obvious he lacks
that courage.

docufo

2017-04-22 05:53:25 UTC

Post by docufo
As you may have noted in the headline news today, the USAF dropped
the "mother of all bombs" reportedly on a major underground
facilities belonging to ISIL in Afghanistan.
Trump hailed as it as "another successful job."
The 21,000+ lb. 30 foot guided non-nuclear bomb shook a 15- sq.
mile wide area like a small earthquake.
It was the first time the Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb or MOAB
(nicknamed Mother Of All Bombs) was used in combat operations.
The mother of all Presidents has previewed his "solution" to
eradicating ISIL (and all terrorists) - as he said on his stump
speech, "we're gonna bomb the SHIT out of 'em."
The SHIT apparently has begun.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/afghanistan-isis-moab-bomb/
A happy Steven Douglas is dancing with his regal cat tonight.
^Y^ U

So the purpose of this large bomb dropped on a cave system, reputedly
that has a an extensive network of tunnels, so why not just put
surveillance on it map it out, and bop whoever is on the list, as
they enter, or depart, or better yet take it over, since the western
coalition, has had it's arse wopped perhaps it is sour grapes, and
Binnie's strategic disappearance, is not to be repeated, or maybe T
Rump just wants to say "I carry a big stick, and am not afraid to use

Leigh, his "big stick" is floating AWAY from its earlier announced

Speaking of Leigh, it seems he's disappeared since JTEM gave
him that challenge about Darwin. I was really hoping Leigh
would have the courage to respond, but it's obvious he lacks
that courage.

No one need have any courage to take on a lil' man like yourself any
more than having the guts to face PeeWee Herman.

^Y^
U

Steven Douglas

2017-04-23 05:32:01 UTC

Post by docufo
As you may have noted in the headline news today, the USAF dropped
the "mother of all bombs" reportedly on a major underground
facilities belonging to ISIL in Afghanistan.
Trump hailed as it as "another successful job."
The 21,000+ lb. 30 foot guided non-nuclear bomb shook a 15- sq.
mile wide area like a small earthquake.
It was the first time the Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb or MOAB
(nicknamed Mother Of All Bombs) was used in combat operations.
The mother of all Presidents has previewed his "solution" to
eradicating ISIL (and all terrorists) - as he said on his stump
speech, "we're gonna bomb the SHIT out of 'em."
The SHIT apparently has begun.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/afghanistan-isis-moab-bomb/
A happy Steven Douglas is dancing with his regal cat tonight.
^Y^ U

So the purpose of this large bomb dropped on a cave system, reputedly
that has a an extensive network of tunnels, so why not just put
surveillance on it map it out, and bop whoever is on the list, as
they enter, or depart, or better yet take it over, since the western
coalition, has had it's arse wopped perhaps it is sour grapes, and
Binnie's strategic disappearance, is not to be repeated, or maybe T
Rump just wants to say "I carry a big stick, and am not afraid to use

Leigh, his "big stick" is floating AWAY from its earlier announced

Speaking of Leigh, it seems he's disappeared since JTEM gave
him that challenge about Darwin. I was really hoping Leigh
would have the courage to respond, but it's obvious he lacks
that courage.

No one need have any courage to take on a lil' man like yourself any
more than having the guts to face PeeWee Herman.

It was JTEM's challenge, not mine. But I don't expect Leigh to
respond to JTEM's challenge. I'll be surprised if he does.

docufo

2017-04-23 08:22:51 UTC

Post by docufo
As you may have noted in the headline news today, the USAF dropped
the "mother of all bombs" reportedly on a major underground
facilities belonging to ISIL in Afghanistan.
Trump hailed as it as "another successful job."
The 21,000+ lb. 30 foot guided non-nuclear bomb shook a 15- sq.
mile wide area like a small earthquake.
It was the first time the Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb or MOAB
(nicknamed Mother Of All Bombs) was used in combat operations.
The mother of all Presidents has previewed his "solution" to
eradicating ISIL (and all terrorists) - as he said on his stump
speech, "we're gonna bomb the SHIT out of 'em."
The SHIT apparently has begun.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/afghanistan-isis-moab-bomb/
A happy Steven Douglas is dancing with his regal cat tonight.
^Y^ U

So the purpose of this large bomb dropped on a cave system, reputedly
that has a an extensive network of tunnels, so why not just put
surveillance on it map it out, and bop whoever is on the list, as
they enter, or depart, or better yet take it over, since the western
coalition, has had it's arse wopped perhaps it is sour grapes, and
Binnie's strategic disappearance, is not to be repeated, or maybe T
Rump just wants to say "I carry a big stick, and am not afraid to use

Leigh, his "big stick" is floating AWAY from its earlier announced

Speaking of Leigh, it seems he's disappeared since JTEM gave
him that challenge about Darwin. I was really hoping Leigh
would have the courage to respond, but it's obvious he lacks
that courage.

No one need have any courage to take on a lil' man like yourself any
more than having the guts to face PeeWee Herman.

It was JTEM's challenge, not mine. But I don't expect Leigh to
respond to JTEM's challenge. I'll be surprised if he does.

No, what upsets you is that Leigh is somewhat liberal in his views, and
that makes you piss your pants having nightmares once again that the
dreaded "little leftist gang" may be rebuilding, ready to keep your
extreme right-wing crap from remaining unchallenged. Just grab your
regal cat, Ronnie, and give it another hard hug or two.

It'll pass.

^Y^
v

Steven Douglas

2017-04-23 19:47:59 UTC