UAP (UFO) shoots down helicopter

[JTEM]

I googled it and couldn't find one damn independent cite.

[DocUFO]

Post by JTEM
http://youtu.be/0m3TTNV5Cl0
I googled it and couldn't find one damn independent cite.

JFK files and UFOs according to Donnie John:

Joe Rogan discovers what ufologists have suspected -
Donald doesn't know beans about UFOs or even cares.

=)=
`Q`

[JTEM]

Post by DocUFO
http://youtu.be/sozmnOjN97c
Joe Rogan discovers what ufologists have suspected -
Donald doesn't know beans about UFOs or even cares.

Should he care?

Why?

I can't say that I care very much.

There aren't unlimited resources. We don't even have the money
we're wasting on the Ukraine! It's all fake money, pure
inflation. And the aid to a Net en DoDo as he collapses the
middle east: None of that cash is real, either. We have a
massive deficit. It's all being paid by inflation -- printing
up money out of thin air.

I wouldn't waste cash chasing UFOs.

[DocUFO]

Post by JTEM

Post by DocUFO
http://youtu.be/sozmnOjN97c
Joe Rogan discovers what ufologists have suspected -
Donald doesn't know beans about UFOs or even cares.

Should he care?
Why?
I can't say that I care very much.
There aren't unlimited resources. We don't even have the money
we're wasting on the Ukraine!  It's all fake money, pure
inflation. And the aid to a Net en DoDo as he collapses the
middle east:  None of that cash is real, either. We have a
massive deficit. It's all being paid by inflation -- printing
up money out of thin air.
I wouldn't waste cash chasing UFOs.

Donnie told Rogan that Mars might have aliens despite no evidence
to date the Red Planet has any advanced life forms or ever has had.
Donald's back in the 1950s before the Mariner probes visited Mars.
And the many more sophisticated probes sent there since.
The only "aliens" he's interested are those crossing our borders
illegally (or legally). They're vermin to him and his cult just as
the Left are regarded as the "enemy within."
And they might as well be originating from Mars or even another star
system because they're not quite as human as himself and Americans
that share his racism and nationalism. Xenophobic pinheads that have
grown in number greatly since he began his fascistic political career.
You'd not waste your time chasing UFOs since chasing ginger twinks
occupies so much of your time.
#y=
`0`

[JTEM]

Post by DocUFO
Donnie told Rogan that Mars might have aliens despite no evidence
to date the Red Planet has any advanced life forms or ever has had.

#1. The Mars Lander's test for life, which came back positive.

If you Google it there's plenty of non-life explanations for the
results but isn't that always the case?

"Let's spend a billion dollars, in 2024 dollars, on this test that
100% guarantees to answer the question about life on Mars. Wait,
what? It came out positive? Well it's not so iron clad and, gee,
I bet you wished I said something BEFORE building, promising it's
guaranteed & flewing it to Mars."

#2. Biosignatures in the atmosphere.

I remember when they turned these methods on earth, from space,
the headlines claiming that they "Proved" there is life on earth.
Well, just as soon as they got their positive result from Mars
it was denounced as a useless test.

Methane, even oxygen! Neither can remain in an atmosphere for
very long. Oxygen loves to react to things, LIKE METHANE! So they
need to be replenished.

#3. The famous Mars Rock

Back in the 1990s it was declared that a Martian meteorite
contained micro fossils! The fossils were later tested using
a method described as fool proof, 100% conclusive, right up
until it returned a positive result on the Mars Rock "Fossils."

From then on it was only "fool proof" in the case of earth rocks.

#4. Photographic evidence

There are a great many photos taken on the surface of Mars of
structures, stains (etc) that appear as life. All of these have
non-life explanations, some of them even good, but without a
return mission & thorough testing there is no way to tell.

#5. Indirect evidence

Mars is believed to have cooled more quickly than the earth and
to have supported a very earth like environment in the very
distant past. It's difficult to believe that life may have spawned
on the barren hellscape that is the present day Mars but that is
NOT what anyone is suggesting.

The model suggested is that life arose on a wet, far warmer Mars,
perhaps even reaching into the realm of macrobiology, only for
Mars to slowly watch it's surface stripped away. Life would have
gradually gone extinct, save for extremaphiles clinging on under
the surface and perhaps under rocks or in crevices above ground.

Personally I think it EXTREMELY likely that Mars hosts life. For
me the only question is if it is indigenous life or contamination
from any number of machines sent to & towards Mars.

To me, the best evidence for indigenous life on Mars would be
Macrobiology -- something large enough to be seen with the naked
eye. It seems extremely unlikely to me that in the short time
span humans have been launching technology in the direction of
Mars that microbes could have evolved into something the size of
even small insects.

A fossil life form of any size, dated with a period prior to life
on earth, would also work, though a macrofossil would again be
the best evidence.

[DocUFO]

Post by DocUFO
Donnie told Rogan that Mars might have aliens despite no evidence
to date the Red Planet has any advanced life forms or ever has had.

#1.  The Mars Lander's test for life, which came back positive.
If you Google it there's plenty of non-life explanations for the
results but isn't that always the case?
"Let's spend a billion dollars, in 2024 dollars, on this test that
100% guarantees to answer the question about life on Mars. Wait,
what?  It came out positive? Well it's not so iron clad and, gee,
I bet you wished I said something BEFORE building, promising it's
guaranteed & flewing it to Mars."
#2.  Biosignatures in the atmosphere.
I remember when they turned these methods on earth, from space,
the headlines claiming that they "Proved" there is life on earth.
Well, just as soon as they got their positive result from Mars
it was denounced as a useless test.
Methane, even oxygen!  Neither can remain in an atmosphere for
very long. Oxygen loves to react to things, LIKE METHANE! So they
need to be replenished.
#3.  The famous Mars Rock
Back in the 1990s it was declared that a Martian meteorite
contained micro fossils! The fossils were later tested using
a method described as fool proof, 100% conclusive, right up
until it returned a positive result on the Mars Rock "Fossils."
From then on it was only "fool proof" in the case of earth rocks.
#4.  Photographic evidence
There are a great many photos taken on the surface of Mars of
structures, stains (etc) that appear as life. All of these have
non-life explanations, some of them even good, but without a
return mission & thorough testing there is no way to tell.
#5.  Indirect evidence
Mars is believed to have cooled more quickly than the earth and
to have supported a very earth like environment in the very
distant past. It's difficult to believe that life may have spawned
on the barren hellscape that is the present day Mars but that is
NOT what anyone is suggesting.
The model suggested is that life arose on a wet, far warmer Mars,
perhaps even reaching into the realm of macrobiology, only for
Mars to slowly watch it's surface stripped away. Life would have
gradually gone extinct, save for extremaphiles clinging on under
the surface and perhaps under rocks or in crevices above ground.
Personally I think it EXTREMELY likely that Mars hosts life. For
me the only question is if it is indigenous life or contamination
from any number of machines sent to & towards Mars.
To me, the best evidence for indigenous life on Mars would be
Macrobiology -- something large enough to be seen with the naked
eye. It seems extremely unlikely to me that in the short time
span humans have been launching technology in the direction of
Mars that microbes could have evolved into something the size of
even small insects.
A fossil life form of any size, dated with a period prior to life
on earth, would also work, though a macrofossil would again be
the best evidence.

I'm referring to an advanced life form like our species. It
seems more likely Mars had simple micro life forms. It likely
had the conditions for life to appear, but there it's highly
interpretive evidence that Mars had anything that was
like our species. Not even an ant or a fly. It all depends on
which scientist or group's suggestive evidence that
you find most appealing.
To date, some scientists have theories and not much else that a
much higher form of life existed on Mars. An intelligence like
ours. Loeb's "evidence" reminds me of his discovery of odd
tiny titanium spheres at the bottom of oceans, and some attached
to high atmospheric research balloons. He favors that the spheres
are a sign of an intelligence seeding the universe. But other
scientists argue it could also be a natural phenomenon. Loeb
admits it could.
So, the so-called intelligent life "evidence" thus far presented
is interpretive and often follows lines of popular biases related
to our sci-fi obsessions.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/nasa-makes-startling-discovery-on-mars-boosting-extraterrestrial-life-hopes/ar-AA1tg9GV?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Donnie's biases and ignorance, egotism and stupidity keep clouding his
thinking processes.

You've much the same disposition. You need a long hard spanking by a
twink bondage freak - abducted and whipped on your silly ass until it
glows like Rudolph's red nose.

e)e
`V`

[JTEM]

Post by DocUFO
I'm referring to an advanced life form like our species.

That's a limitation of your mind.

You can't experience the excitement of alien life, unless
it's the alien life of your childhood B-Movies.

And that's sad.

Because the prospect here, and what Trump was speaking of,
are genuinely exciting.

Post by DocUFO
It
seems more likely Mars had simple micro life forms.

I'm on record saying it: I believe that they already know
if there's life on Mars. For starters, their most recent
lander whose primary missions is the search for life can't
even see the vast majority of microbial life here on earth.

They're searching for macrobiology.

Post by DocUFO
It likely
had the conditions for life to appear, but there it's highly
interpretive evidence that Mars had anything that was
like our species.

"Our species" is popularly dated back 300 thousand years, which
represents not one-tenth of one percent of the planet's history.

Post by DocUFO
Not even an ant or a fly.

Well I think they have have had "Complex life," multicellular
and all that muck, but it's likely extinct. There was the
liquid water they claimed to detect beneath the surface, which
may be the result of heat energy generated by bacterial
colonies...

It's interesting to note that NASA has been AVOIDING some of
the places most likely to be hosting life on Mars out of fear
of contaminating them with earth life!

Post by DocUFO
To date, some scientists have theories and not much else that a
much higher form of life existed on Mars.

Nature doesn't care.Alien life is the biggest discovery our
science has yet made and we have yet to make it!

And that's microbial life!

Post by DocUFO
So, the so-called intelligent life "evidence" thus far presented
is interpretive and often follows lines of popular biases related
to our sci-fi obsessions.

SETI is only capable of detecting signals from an intelligent
species deliberately sent as a signal to us.

How we will find life is through the search for Biosignatures. How
we will find technological life is through the search for
technosignatures.

In both instances these are time capsules and the life could be
long gone or vastly more advanced from what we're detecting.

As a hint: Imagine aliens peering at our world during the Jurassic
Period? They'd detect an earth teeming with life. But it would be
oversized chickens & lizards only. Same is true for, say, 2.5
million years ago. Homo, humans would be on the scene but all the
aliens could detect is life, not any intelligent life.

Post by DocUFO
Donnie's biases and ignorance

You are in the midst of parading your ignorance. Trump got it right!
Mars may host life and if any flavor of Panspermia is correct it
most certainly did, perhaps even seeded the earth with life!

You may be a Martian after all!

[DocUFO]

Post by JTEM

Post by DocUFO
I'm referring to an advanced life form like our species.

That's a limitation of your mind.
You can't experience the excitement of alien life, unless
it's the alien life of your childhood B-Movies.
And that's sad.
Because the prospect here, and what Trump was speaking of,
are genuinely exciting.

Post by DocUFO
It
seems more likely Mars had simple micro life forms.

I'm on record saying it:  I believe that they already know
if there's life on Mars. For starters, their most recent
lander whose primary missions is the search for life can't
even see the vast majority of microbial life here on earth.
They're searching for macrobiology.

Post by DocUFO
It likely
had the conditions for life to appear, but there it's highly
interpretive evidence that Mars had anything that was
like our species.

"Our species" is popularly dated back 300 thousand years, which
represents not one-tenth of one percent of the planet's history.

Post by DocUFO
Not even an ant or a fly.

Well I think they have have had "Complex life," multicellular
and all that muck, but it's likely extinct. There was the
liquid water they claimed to detect beneath the surface, which
may be the result of heat energy generated by bacterial
colonies...
It's interesting to note that NASA has been AVOIDING some of
the places most likely to be hosting life on Mars out of fear
of contaminating them with earth life!

Post by DocUFO
To date, some scientists have theories and not much else that a
much higher form of life existed on Mars.

Nature doesn't care.Alien life is the biggest discovery our
science has yet made and we have yet to make it!
And that's microbial life!

Post by DocUFO
So, the so-called intelligent life "evidence" thus far presented
is interpretive and often follows lines of popular biases related
to our sci-fi obsessions.

SETI is only capable of detecting signals from an intelligent
species deliberately sent as a signal to us.
How we will find life is through the search for Biosignatures. How
we will find technological life is through the search for
technosignatures.
In both instances these are time capsules and the life could be
long gone or vastly more advanced from what we're detecting.
As a hint:  Imagine aliens peering at our world during the Jurassic
Period? They'd detect an earth teeming with life. But it would be
oversized chickens & lizards only. Same is true for, say, 2.5
million years ago. Homo, humans would be on the scene but all the
aliens could detect is life, not any intelligent life.

Post by DocUFO
Donnie's biases and ignorance

You are in the midst of parading your ignorance. Trump got it right!
Mars may host life and if any flavor of Panspermia is correct it
most certainly did, perhaps even seeded the earth with life!
You may be a Martian after all!

Yeah, psychotic authoritarian serial crooks as leaders are what we
should respect for their views on anything. Seditionists and
lawbreakers are the sources to go to for facts and truth.
We need to got to Donnie as a reliable source of scientific
information. After all, his uncle was a genius at MIT and he thinks he
may share his smart genes! Yes, that is what he told scientists and
doctors at the CDC during the pandemic. LOL!
You'd go for a meth-addicted pimp for scientific information and
enlightenment!
Since you seem to have gotten the same brain worm Bobby, Jr, said
doctors had found in his gourd, I should realize it's a major
medical problem and have some sympathy.
No, I'm not a Martian. You, however, are a refuge from the planet
that once orbited between Mars and Saturn - until a huge asteroid
collided with it.
It was a weird planet. So bizarre that its 13 moons were shaped
like dildos, butt plugs and ticklers. All a different neon color.

Q)Q
`V`

[DocUFO]

Post by DocUFO

Post by JTEM

Post by DocUFO
I'm referring to an advanced life form like our species.

That's a limitation of your mind.
You can't experience the excitement of alien life, unless
it's the alien life of your childhood B-Movies.
And that's sad.
Because the prospect here, and what Trump was speaking of,
are genuinely exciting.

Post by DocUFO
It
seems more likely Mars had simple micro life forms.

I'm on record saying it:  I believe that they already know
if there's life on Mars. For starters, their most recent
lander whose primary missions is the search for life can't
even see the vast majority of microbial life here on earth.
They're searching for macrobiology.

Post by DocUFO
It likely
had the conditions for life to appear, but there it's highly
interpretive evidence that Mars had anything that was
like our species.

"Our species" is popularly dated back 300 thousand years, which
represents not one-tenth of one percent of the planet's history.

Post by DocUFO
Not even an ant or a fly.

Well I think they have have had "Complex life," multicellular
and all that muck, but it's likely extinct. There was the
liquid water they claimed to detect beneath the surface, which
may be the result of heat energy generated by bacterial
colonies...
It's interesting to note that NASA has been AVOIDING some of
the places most likely to be hosting life on Mars out of fear
of contaminating them with earth life!

Post by DocUFO
To date, some scientists have theories and not much else that a
much higher form of life existed on Mars.

Nature doesn't care.Alien life is the biggest discovery our
science has yet made and we have yet to make it!
And that's microbial life!

Post by DocUFO
So, the so-called intelligent life "evidence" thus far presented
is interpretive and often follows lines of popular biases related
to our sci-fi obsessions.

SETI is only capable of detecting signals from an intelligent
species deliberately sent as a signal to us.
How we will find life is through the search for Biosignatures. How
we will find technological life is through the search for
technosignatures.
In both instances these are time capsules and the life could be
long gone or vastly more advanced from what we're detecting.
As a hint:  Imagine aliens peering at our world during the Jurassic
Period? They'd detect an earth teeming with life. But it would be
oversized chickens & lizards only. Same is true for, say, 2.5
million years ago. Homo, humans would be on the scene but all the
aliens could detect is life, not any intelligent life.

Post by DocUFO
Donnie's biases and ignorance

You are in the midst of parading your ignorance. Trump got it right!
Mars may host life and if any flavor of Panspermia is correct it
most certainly did, perhaps even seeded the earth with life!
You may be a Martian after all!

C o r r e c t i o n :: i n c a p s

Post by DocUFO
No, I'm not a Martian. You, however, are a refuge from the planet
that once orbited between Mars and JUPITER - until a huge asteroid
collided with it.
It was a weird planet. So bizarre that its 13 moons were shaped
like dildos, butt plugs and ticklers. All a different neon color.
Q)Q
`V`

[JTEM]

Post by DocUFO
Yeah, psychotic authoritarian serial crooks as leaders are what we
should respect for their views on anything.

Is there supposed to be a context?

It looks like you're wetting your pants because Trump very
accurately stated that there could be life on Mars, but you
don't want aliens if they're bacteria.

Post by DocUFO
Seditionists

So if you're upset with the present state of the nation it's
okay to endanger the public with blocking roads, bridges and
tunnels, terrorizing random motorists, arson, looting private
businesses BUT DON'T YOU DARE PROTEST THE PEOPLE WITH THE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THINGS!!!!!

What happened during our "Summer of Love" in 2020 was infinitely
worse. This is a fact. It was orders of magnitude worse.

If January 6 was so bad then why did the media have to lie about
it, order you to believe it was THE MOSTEST WORSTED BREACH EVER?

Post by DocUFO
We need to got to Donnie as a reliable source of scientific
information.

I didn't cite Trump. You did.

The evidence for life on Mars has been accumulating since the
1970s. It's been discussed here, by me, while you scratched your
ass & wondered why your finger smelled so bad...

[DocUFO]

Post by JTEM

Post by DocUFO
Yeah, psychotic authoritarian serial crooks as leaders are what we
should respect for their views on anything.

Is there supposed to be a context?

Yes, certainly. Donnie was asked firstly what was his opinion on the
UFO phenomenon. In that context of possible aliens and their vehicles
present on Earth, Donnie basically said it was possible but not likely
yet he left the impression he didn't know that much about UFOs or seem
to care much, either. So, from that introduction, Rogan wanted to know
his opinions on alien life in the universe. Mars was then mentioned,
along with other possibilities way, way out beyond our solar system.
So, Rogan has had many shows on the purported landers' evidence of an
advanced race (along with insects, animal fossils, etc.). The interview
focused on intelligent advanced life that builds the saucers witnessed
and recorded all over our world, even under the seas. Rogan's ET
interest included shows on unexplained "signals" from some star systems.
When one says "alien life" it can easily encompass humanoids along with
lower life forms. Programs excluding the humanoid factor don't garner
nearly as much of an audience, so it's little wonder the media world
is more focused on the theory alien humanoids could be among us.
There is no compelling evidence thus far that Mars has/had intelligence
like ours, serving up greasy burgers and fries that Donnie consumes
like a gigantic pig.

Post by JTEM
It looks like you're wetting your pants because Trump very
accurately stated that there could be life on Mars, but you
don't want aliens if they're bacteria.

Post by DocUFO
Seditionists

So if you're upset with the present state of the nation it's
okay to endanger the public with blocking roads, bridges and
tunnels, terrorizing random motorists, arson, looting private
businesses BUT DON'T YOU DARE PROTEST THE PEOPLE WITH THE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THINGS!!!!!
What happened during our "Summer of Love" in 2020 was infinitely
worse. This is a fact. It was orders of magnitude worse.
If January 6 was so bad then why did the media have to lie about
it, order you to believe it was THE MOSTEST WORSTED BREACH EVER?

Post by DocUFO
We need to got to Donnie as a reliable source of scientific
information.

I didn't cite Trump. You did.
The evidence for life on Mars has been accumulating since the
1970s. It's been discussed here, by me, while you scratched your
ass & wondered why your finger smelled so bad...

Americans and in parliamentarian democracies, overall, are allowed
to peacefully assemble to air their grievances against both state
and private entities, or just have a street party that's peaceful
to celebrate anything. A small number of a much larger peaceful
group occasionally turns such events into violence. The media loves
violence, property damage, arson, assaults, murders, ad nauseam.
It's been their primary bias since protests first began in our early
national history. It is a damned good freedom to have! We don't need
Donnie's paramilitary evildoer clean ups nor his butt lickers that
encourage him. You and Steven would be well placed in that sad,
bad category.
You and he appear to have brown tongue stains by licking Putin's
hairy rump, too.
I wonder if you two are seditionists and fans of fascist governments
and secretly want to hump their totalitarian leaders. At least give
them BJs night and day.
LOL!!
=)+
`V`

[JTEM]

Post by DocUFO
Americans and in parliamentarian democracies, overall, are allowed
to peacefully assemble to air their grievances against both state
and private entities

Like in 2020!

"Peaceful Protest that sucker to the ground!"

Post by DocUFO
You and he appear to have brown tongue stains by licking Putin's
hairy rump, too.

I can see why a focus on America and Americans might be construed
as a focus on Putin, and I'm only being a little sarcastic... or a
lot.

Any obligation we took on, regarding the Ukraine, ended after the
fascist coup. And even if you need to pretend it didn't, we were
certainly obligated after their first terrorist attack inside of
Russia, threatening WWIII.

And we literally don't have the money!

And we desperately need the money elsewhere!

AND there's the fact that the Ukraine has been a policy LOSER.

Putin is not only winning the war but also the peace. North Korea
is richer and more stable than EVER in your lifetime, thanks
directly to the stupid policies. The energy markets are insane and
BRICS has grown larger & stronger!