Post by Steven DouglasPost by DocUFOPost by Steven DouglasPost by DocUFOPost by Steven DouglasPost by MikePost by Steven DouglasI've said a few times that I don't need the Shroud to
be real for me to believe that Jesus is the Son of God,
that he was crucified, buried, then resurrected from
the dead. And then rose up into the clouds to sit at
the right hand of God the Father.
Also, living in the clouds is not as hospitable as legends
would have one believe. The temperature is very cold and
the air is way too thin to breathe.
Hmm, that's probably why we don't go there in our Earthly
body. The Bible says we will be changed before we are
taken up. Being the Bible expert that you say you are,
I would have expected you to know that.
The Bible also informs us that the dead will rise from
their graves which contradicts the existence of souls.
No it doesn't. The Bible says absent from the body,
present with the Lord. See 2 Corinthians 5:8.
Post by DocUFOSouls are not thought to be nesting in human's dead
bodies six feet under
That's right, they're present with the Lord.
Post by DocUFOsince the Bible makes it clear the
body is only a vehicle or a home for our (supposed) souls
and when our bodies die, the souls leave it.
Correct.
Post by DocUFOSo why is it prophesied that souls are still in our dead
bodies?
That's not what the Bible says. It says the dead bodies will
be resurrected and changed (as the bodies of those who are
living will be changed), and the resurrected and transformed
bodies will be reunited with their spirit that is currently
present with the Lord. See 1 Corinthians 15:42-49 and
Philippians 3:21.
Post by DocUFOWell, it's another mystery that only God must know its
answer.
The Bible says that when we die, our spirit is immediately
present with the Lord. Then when the rapture happens, the
bodies of those in graves will be raised and transformed,
just as the bodies of the living will be transformed. But
the bodies of those who were in graves will be reunited
with their spirits that are currently present with the Lord.
Post by DocUFOOr maybe it's some more horseshit.
I feel sorry for you, Doc. With your attitude, you're going
to miss it.
Your confused reply
You might be confused, but I'm not.
Post by DocUFOis exactly why I don't count on religion
to resolve any mystery or rely on it as truth.
I've noticed. There's a saying about those who don't believe
in something will fall for anything. In your case, it's that
you have no problem believing in little green men, but you
have great problems believing the Word of God.
Post by DocUFOBodies are dead. Souls immediately evacuate. But some bodies
deserve to be raised, changed and have their previous soul
inhabit it again.
Those who died and are now with Jesus are the ones who will
return to be reunited with their resurrected body -- a body
that will be changed (as I noted in the Bible verses I cited
above).
That's what I do when you talk about little green men. You
have NOTHING to substantiate your belief in little green
men, other than your fantasies. But I have the Bible, which
has PROVEN itself to be the Word of God -- for anyone who is
not willfully blind to it.
Post by DocUFOSo, are we talking the freshest dead bodies? It would seem so.
And what of the rotted bodies? Well, those people were just
unlucky to have been lying there so damned long.
I'm not surprised you don't understand. You don't want to
understand. You want to muddle the topic with your own
confusion. No, Doc, as the verses I cited make clear, the
raised bodies will be CHANGED. This also applies to those
whose bodies were burned beyond recognition. Which also
applies to those who were cremated. All believers will have
a brand new body, which will be unlike our current human
bodies.
Post by DocUFOReligion. The stuff that madness is made of.
Did you see how well the Soviet Union did without religion?
Would you have preferred to live in that hellhole of a society?
You desire to dwell in the alt realities that favor replacing
facts with beliefs. I'm no more impressed with your and MAGA's
Deep State than with your explanation for the dead rising
during the Apocalypse. Both rely almost entirely on belief for
acceptance by the adherent who's most often trading facts for a
form of fiction! I guess "truth" to you and many needs to conform
to your biases or it's useless and invalid.
The soul is the only thing worth saving according to most
analyses of biblical text. Returning souls in the Hindi mindset
inhabit newborn bodies to work out bad Karma. It is clear bodies
are disposable but souls are eternal.
Why then should the Christian God want to bother with their
dead bodies at all? Unimportant say many scholars. Contradictory.
And in heaven, will our souls have the same bodies? If so, then
the importance of the body in that situation defies the
pronouncements by many religious scholars that returning souls inhabit
dissimilar bodies. A big man's soul comes back in a dwarf's body, for
example.
Your biblical beliefs now mix heavily with Deep State beliefs with
the latter's proponents, including of course Donnie's rigged
election claim, being presented as truth that the Left's supposed
"ignoramuses" and evildoers wish to ignore.
Yep, to your warped mindset, the "enemy within" needs to go along
with the reality of your and MAGA's beliefs being truth and stop our
stupid ignorant opposition.
Even if it takes many rifles shooting us dead to get the swamp drained
in order to refill it with the far right's most fanatical. Liz
Cheney needs to wear a Kevlar vest and helmet after Donnie's
weird cautionary remark.
Oh! And did you notice the crimson background lighting for the MSG
stage show Donnie held? You once imagined the red backdrop for Biden had
something to do with the Antichrist. Has the AC's evil influence spread
to Donnie's traveling carnival of crazies?
You know, the one with the nightclub comic he pretends to know nothing
about! The profane and racist schmuck that cost Donnie support from the
Puerto Rican and Latino communities. All he next needs to do is to have
an unknown comedian racially poke at blacks and Asians. That should draw
the curtain on his creepy circus.
He has others throw slabs of red meat for his racist segment to chew on.
Donnie hates to lose ANY support; presumably, that includes dick-tator
Putin, mad bomber Bibi and Rocket Man.
He runs with a scurvy contemptible gang at the top - mostly
authoritarians out for maximum power and wealth. If convicted next
year, Donald may seek asylum (from imprisonment) in Russia, one of
the very few nations that show a majority support for him. Or maybe
Bibi can give the oaf shelter from the "storm."
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