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[JTEM]

Is she a fraud?

https://www.facebook.com/reel/907702621321232

So you ask a question and we assume that if the rods
come together that means yes. But...

It has always been my understanding that if ONE rod
moved to the other, but the other stays put, that is
a DIFFERENT response from "Yes."

The rods can "Split" like this but they can also
spin.

This is why you have to ask what it will do when the
answer is yes, and again for no, and again for maybe
or anything else else you can think of.

[Mike]

Post by JTEM
Is she a fraud?
https://www.facebook.com/reel/907702621321232
So you ask a question and we assume that if the rods
come together that means yes. But...
It has always been my understanding that if ONE rod
moved to the other, but the other stays put, that is
a DIFFERENT response from "Yes."
The rods can "Split" like this but they can also
spin.
This is why you have to ask what it will do when the
answer is yes, and again for no, and again for maybe
or anything else else you can think of.

I know the person is moving the rods as they want
regardless of if they know or don't know it. I
don't feel like being so gullible and haven't
seen anything substantial.

[Mike]

Post by Mike

Post by JTEM
Is she a fraud?
https://www.facebook.com/reel/907702621321232
So you ask a question and we assume that if the rods
come together that means yes. But...
It has always been my understanding that if ONE rod
moved to the other, but the other stays put, that is
a DIFFERENT response from "Yes."
The rods can "Split" like this but they can also
spin.
This is why you have to ask what it will do when the
answer is yes, and again for no, and again for maybe
or anything else else you can think of.

I know the person is moving the rods as they want
regardless of if they know or don't know it. I
don't feel like being so gullible and haven't
seen anything substantial.

This almost makes me angry! I think it's bullshit!
The devices are just an excuse so the person doesn't
have to take responsibility for the results or outcome.
It's just like Bashar and channels project onto a
fictitious entity. The rods masquerade as physical proof
when they are just a tool used as a 'scapegoat', so to speak.

[JTEM]

Post by Mike
This almost makes me angry! I think it's bullshit!
The devices are just an excuse so the person doesn't
have to take responsibility for the results or outcome.

Like I said, I had it work for me enough times to scare
me.

Post by Mike
It's just like Bashar and channels project onto a
fictitious entity. The rods masquerade as physical proof
when they are just a tool used as a 'scapegoat', so to speak.

So put them to the test.

[Mike]

Post by JTEM

Post by Mike
This almost makes me angry! I think it's bullshit!
The devices are just an excuse so the person doesn't
have to take responsibility for the results or outcome.

Like I said, I had it work for me enough times to scare
me.

Perhaps you didn't need the rods. Maybe you're just
using them as a crutch.

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Post by Mike
It's just like Bashar and channels project onto a
fictitious entity. The rods masquerade as physical proof
when they are just a tool used as a 'scapegoat', so to speak.

So put them to the test.

I don't have any. I have no rods, no Cristal ball, no
pendulum I can use. All I have is a pack of dental floss
and a cheep ring made of an unknown metal. Certainly any
scientist would want to use high quality instruments.

[JTEM]

Post by Mike
Perhaps you didn't need the rods. Maybe you're just
using them as a crutch.

Why speculate? Just test the ideas.

Post by Mike

Post by JTEM

Post by Mike
It's just like Bashar and channels project onto a
fictitious entity. The rods masquerade as physical proof
when they are just a tool used as a 'scapegoat', so to speak.

So put them to the test.

I don't have any.

You don't need any. A pendulum works just fine, and you can
easily make one with string (thread) and anything round.

Or a fishing weight!

Post by Mike
I have no rods, no Cristal ball, no
pendulum I can use.

Of course you do. Like I said, I used one which was a washer
on a string and got results.

Post by Mike
All I have is a pack of dental floss
and a cheep ring made of an unknown metal.

Then you're all set!

Post by Mike
Certainly any
scientist would want to use high quality instruments.

Instruments are for measuring results. In this case the
results are statistical. You have a 1/100 chance of
divining a number between 0 and 99. You have a 1/1000
chance of divining a number between 0 & 999.

[Mike]

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Post by Mike
Perhaps you didn't need the rods. Maybe you're just
using them as a crutch.

Why speculate? Just test the ideas.

It's not totally speculation. My friend did let me
to try his out. I understood the mechanisms at play.
I could do as good without instruments.

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Post by Mike

Post by JTEM

Post by Mike
It's just like Bashar and channels project onto a
fictitious entity. The rods masquerade as physical proof
when they are just a tool used as a 'scapegoat', so to speak.

So put them to the test.

I don't have any.

You don't need any. A pendulum works just fine, and you can
easily make one with string (thread) and anything round.
Or a fishing weight!

Post by Mike
I have no rods, no Cristal ball, no
pendulum I can use.

Of course you do. Like I said, I used one which was a washer
on a string and got results.

Post by Mike
All I have is a pack of dental floss
and a cheep ring made of an unknown metal.

Then you're all set!

OK, I have one. What should I do next?

Post by JTEM

Post by Mike
Certainly any
scientist would want to use high quality instruments.

Instruments are for measuring results. In this case the
results are statistical. You have a 1/100 chance of
divining a number between 0 and 99. You have a 1/1000
chance of divining a number between 0 & 999.

Well, there is the belief and perception that expectations
influence outcomes, so that reduces my probability to almost
zero I think. I don't have to test it. I already know what
the results will be.

[JTEM]

Post by Mike
I know the person is moving the rods as they want
regardless of if they know or don't know it.

You believe. To "Know" you'd have to test it. You'd
need to successfully ascertain answers which you had
no knowledge of to a degree which excludes random
chance.

[Mike]

Post by JTEM

Post by Mike
I know the person is moving the rods as they want
regardless of if they know or don't know it.

You believe. To "Know" you'd have to test it. You'd
need to successfully ascertain answers which you had
no knowledge of to a degree which excludes random
chance.

You're the one with the rods and the apparatus for
testing. I don't see why I need to be part of the
experiment. I don't see anything to be learned at
my end of the equation. What's in it for me?

[JTEM]

Post by Mike
You're the one with the rods and the apparatus for
testing.

No. You saw my post speaking of pendulums. You can
make one out of household objects. I suggested a
ring, precious metal if you've got it. Not necessary
though. I talked about using a washer.

Post by Mike
I don't see why I need to be part of the
experiment.

Because of the obvious emotional energy resulting
from the topic. Read your posts.

[Mike]

Post by JTEM

Post by Mike
You're the one with the rods and the apparatus for
testing.

No. You saw my post speaking of pendulums. You can
make one out of household objects. I suggested a
ring, precious metal if you've got it. Not necessary
though. I talked about using a washer.

OK, I have a pendulum made of dental floss and
a black ring made of an unknown metal purchased
from Amazon. Will the fact that the ring is black
affect the outcome?

I also have a silver and blue ring inscribed with
the Roman numerals from one to twelve. Maybe that
one might work better?

What should I do next?

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Post by Mike
I don't see why I need to be part of the
experiment.

Because of the obvious emotional energy resulting
from the topic. Read your posts.